This is a found rose. A friend of mine( a professional rosarian) had it growing next to his driveway, so we called it "The Driveway Rose". It has a terrific sweet smell, and has more red in the newly opened bud in the autumn.

I'm not great at identifying roses, so it won't be me who comes up with the ID. However for those who are, it might help to get pictures that clearly show the shape and location of the thorns/prickles. Are they just on the canes or also on the ribs of the leaves? And please, a clearer picture of the shapes of the leaves with the number of leaflets. You might want to take the pictures in better light also. Any idea how big it grows? Any idea how long ago it may have been planted?

What I can already tell is that this rose repeats its bloom since you mentioned the fall bloom. And the shiny leaves strong suggest that it is a relatively modern rose (20th century or there about).

If I were forced to guess, I would say that it is a late-ish 20th century hybrid tea, but don't take that to the bank. I could be proved wrong in every count. I say late in part because of the sweet scent you mentioned. That was not a highly sought-after trait in the mid 20th century, though a few roses from that period were anyway. In the early 20th century when fragrance was still highly valued, HT frequently had the softer Tea-like form. Your rose has the later firmly upright posture.

Lots of exceptions all over the map, which is why I would not be at all offended if told I am wrong.

Notta clue! But I agree with Folly that this looks like late 20th Century ... and a Hybrid Tea Rose.

And, Canadian . . . Similar in bloom, right? But I'd say the leaves were quite different, and have a "quilted" look that your Eternal Flame doesn't seem to show.

Thanks everyone. I'll try to photograph leaves and thorns, etc tomorrow.

Wow! I looked up various photos of " Eternal Flame" and several showed the slight red streak shown in my top and bottom photos. Sort of like a flame. This might possibly be it. My bush is slowly dying, and thru layering, I produced clones which now grow in each of my daughters' gardens. My whole family has an interest in this rose. I had worried that if all the bushes died, it would be lost forever to us. But maybe there is something identical in commerce.

Jeri - just to be clear...that wasn't my shot....that was from hmf. I don't want to take credit for someone else's picture. :) :)

Wow, that would be cool, if I guessed right! I don't know if I've ever done that before. LOL But, yeah, photograph the leaves...jeri's not sure if they're the same. That would be a good indication if they look the same.

I just found out that Eternal Flame was introduced in 2007 - long after I started growing this driveway rose. So i must search on.

Could it be a Peace rose? A rose with large blooms and a terrific fragrance that could grow to 6'+.

striated (?) , prone to blackspot. Very few, but large, thorns.

Reminds me a lot of golden fairytale, but just a stab in the dark.

It could be 'Peace', which was/is very popular. Back in the day, it seemed like everybody grew 'Peace' and 'Mr. Lincoln'...at least in Dallas, TX. My grandfather grew them. Mom grew them. Neighbors grew them.

Here in Portland, I still see large 'Peace' roses growing in older gardens. My current neighbor's mother who would be 95 if she were still living today grew it. In fact, my neighbor's mother's rose is still in the back garden. I'll see if I can get a photo or two.

'Peace' is an interesting HT in that it can be pure cream in the shade or during cloudy stretches but develops reddish tinted edges in strong sun, like some of my favorite Tea Roses. I detect a light, pleasant scent. My husband says 'Peace' is highly scented. 'Peace' does hit 6 feet tall in 50 years. My 'Mr. Lincoln' must be close to 60 years old, and it is 9 feet tall, even with pruning. Blooms are huge!

I hope you are growing 'Peace'. I love its history, its popularity, the great beauty of its blooms, my family connection to it and the fact that it is such a tenacious midcentury HT, still firmly rooted wherever new residents have allowed.

Carol

Thank you for your comment. My mystery rose has much less red on the edges, and is extremely high centered in bud and just coming out of bud.

Andre,

Could your mystery rose be Kings Ransom ? It’s a 1960s HT, vertical growth, very high centered bloom and quite fragrant.

Carol,

Funny how you mentioned houses in Dallas growing Peace and Mister Lincoln. I grow them both! But mine are just a few years old. Agree with you, Peace is as beautiful as they come.

And I grow her sport Chicago Peace next to Peace , too.

Mr Lincoln is already 6 ft, will be 10 ft by end of season.

Ben, gorgeous HTs! I am happy you are carrying on the Dallas tradition of Peace and Mr. Lincoln. Is your Peace own root or grafted? I plan to get a Peace for my garden soon and am trying to decide whether to go own root. Soon, I'll have the Dynamic Dallas Duo here in Portland. Carol

Carol,

I’m glad you’ll continue to grow these old favorites, some great new roses come along, but they don’t really replace the best oldies. I plan to put Pink Peace next to Peace and Chicago Peace.

Chicago Peace and Mister Lincoln were body bags, so I’ll assume Dr Huey. (The Dr does quite well here). Peace is on Fortuniana, I had heard of monster sized Peace plants on Fort, and I would love a giant Peace.

Ben - Man oh man!!! Those are stunners! I've always loved the phlox colored blooms of Chicago Peace!!!

Thank you, Ben! Congrats on the body bag scores. A giant Peace would be magical!

Andre, although PEACE can present with very little red, it sounds like you're not seeing a match. Whatever your rose is, by any name it is beautiful!

Carol