@ livebetter No, I'm not a chemist * LOL * In fact, one of my worst teachers in high school was a chemistry teacher. From my limited knowledge, silicates are generally included in detergents as "washer protection agents" or "anti corrosion agents". Perhaps some detergents are more aggressive and require this ingredient while others do not, I don't know. I purchased a laundry soap made specifically for conditioned water that contains as it's 2nd or 3rd ingredient sodium metasilicate, which is a corrosion inhibitor. Softened water is notoriously aggressive against metals. The salts in conditioned water corrode the anodes in hot water heaters pretty readily. Soft water can also do a good job leaching copper out of copper water pipes, sometimes causing "blue water" to come out of peoples' taps. This sometimes happens in newer homes, but the corrosion will eventually form a coating on the inside of copper pipes that acts as an insulator against the corrosion. Did you know that the name PERSIL comes from the two primary ingredients in its original formulation? The PER comes from PERborate and the SIL comes from SILicates.

@ larsi Seriously! I think Tide is engaging in a little bit of deception. I think all of their formulas are essentially very similar to one another. For instance, only some of their products contained the "Acti-Lift" logo on the cap, yet I read a response from P&G in their own review forum that stated all products contain "Acti-Lift" even though they may not have the logo or term anywhere on the bottle. I think this "Advanced Clean" is basically the same thing - an existing product made to look like it's been reformulated. P&G does this to stimulate sales. Consumers think it's a new and better formulation, so they are more inclined to buy it and try it. I think this is misleading and shady.

I was at a grocery store a few weeks ago, and I kid you not.. there was an entire shelf of Tide HE Powder with the old scent. As well as Vintage Pre-2010 Non-Ultra Tide Powder in Clean Breeze, Original with Bleach, and the Original Original. There was also a single box of non-ultra Cheer with ColorGuard and Ivory Snow Powder. I almost freaked out in the middle of an aisle when I saw it all. And it's all free-flowing which is shocking considering the humidity where I am. Unfortunately, I haven't been purchasing any detergent. And you guys would be so proud, I walked away. I literally have zero ways to consecutively use everything within the next two years, and I think that's a little crazy even for me. With that said, Larsi.. I might be able to send you more Original Scent if you want. I have a ton of boxes of it, and I haven't touched them in over a year (saving them ;) ). In case anyone is interested, I was able to walk away with a single box of Cascade (the only one left) with Phosphates. Thank You Shady Latin Market ;)

No I haven't. Where I live, WM is the only store around beside grocery stores. Target is 50 miles away. I was able to put a box of Tide Plus Bleach in my WM cart (NOT WM grocery) and pick it up today. So I could buy it via the general WM app but not the grocery app :o When at the store this morning (before getting the text it's ready to pick up) I looked on the shelves and no TwB. After I'm home for a couple of hours, I get text telling me my TwB order is ready for pickup (sigh)