Rose disease resistance
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Comments (16)My Louise is supposed to smell fruity!?! I'll have to pay more attention the next time I stick my nose in a bloom. Gemini smells like gumdrops to me. I wonder if I'm way off on that one, too. I have a lot of oranges/apricots. Love them all. My Ingrid Bergman keeps asking for Cary Grant so that might be my next orange. Plants that look orangish in my yard: Hot Cocoa, Voodoo, Bloomsday, Louise Clements, Orange Waves, Livin' Easy, Sunrise at Heirloom, About Face, Tuscan Sun, Tropicana, Tahitian Sunset, Sundowner... uh, I need to take inventory because I'm drawing a blank. I can't remember what a stress-free Louise is like. Mine was eaten by an anonymous critter and is just now rebounding. Despite that she has had no PM in this foggy environment and no BS (without spraying). I get 5-7 blooms at a time on a 2 1/2' tall bush. Sweet and very girly. She's lovely to look at. Two thumnbs up. :0)...See Moreaustin roses - disease resistance and growth habits
Comments (2)My Jude is definitely of a light if variable yellow color, occasionally perhaps with minor shades of light orange/apricot, but I wouldn't call this an apricot rose. It's yellow. My Austins are doing quite well here in the UK without spray, usually better than my HTs and even OGRs, but it really depends on the variety and climate/position, so any generalization has to be taken with several grains of salt. And as Jeri said, even within any given variety (and not just in roses), some plants are stronger than others. I may be wrong, but I don't think that it's necessarily a matter of minimal genetic variability (although this could conceivably also be the case, given the complexity of genetics), but rather how well they have been grafted (if grafted) and cultivated from the beginning. Budwood or cuttings, even if taken from the same mother plant, don't always take in the same way and some remain weaker than others. Some roses may also be more prone to decline with age than others, especially if not in a perfect position/care. So replacing a declining rose with a new one of the same variety can make a difference without the presence of any genetic difference. Generally, David Austin and many other breeders are now increasingly breeding for disease resistance and performance, not just looks. But even this does not always work, as you can see with Austin's fairly new rose Wisley - a most beautiful rose and great performer which is unfortunately extremely prone to BS and has now been replaced by DA with another variety (Wisley 20008). But generally speaking, the newer Austins are more disease resistant than (some of) the older ones, and most of them are better performers. Within other classes, HTs/floris/polys/OGRs I found that it really depends on the variety, although many HTs can be quite lousy in terms of disease resistance. At least in the wetter climates of the southeastern US, UK and northern Germany. Andrea...See MorePaul Barden roses in the Northeast?
Comments (7)Allegra is so successful I worried about letting her stay in the spot I put her - I see serious pruning in her future. She was a band two years ago, in the ground last July, minimal protection last winter, and she more than tripled in size this year. The buds never opened - bad timing, with a mild early spring and then a late hard frost just when they were coloring and the tips were opening. Siren's Keep, band in May 09 and in the ground last July, same minimal protection, I even broke one of the baby canes putting it in, so splinted it with a twig and electrical tape, and that cane blossomed this year! So - for southern NH zone 5, not bad....See MoreShow biz floribunda rose, disease resistant?
Comments (8)I don't grow Showbiz myself, but have observed it growing in a local public garden. Being a floribunda it will not have hybrid tea type, exhibition form blooms with long stems for cutting, but its flowers will be informal in form, but very abundant with short stems, on a neat, tailored looking bush. It was introduced into commerce in the early 1980's before more emphasis on disease resistance and winter hardiness became paramount among rose gardeners, as these traits are today. So you may have black spot issues with Showbiz. Its winter hardiness is a non-issue for you in Durham. It should over winter and be just about tip hardy come spring without any special protection. It has an intensely vibrant red flower and is vigorous and free blooming. Showbiz is not grown for its fragrance, which is mild at best, but for its abundant, rich red flowers. Very hot weather, 85+ F. daytime highs may cause its flowers to wilt and crisp, and not last very long on the bush before they need to be dead headed, but they will be replaced with fresh flowers quickly. Expect smaller sized individual flowers when it is very hot, too. This is s not a fault with Showbiz, but a characteristic of most red rose blooms, and for that matter, for many other deeply/intensely colored rose flowers during the heat of the summer. Personally, I would pass on Showbiz in preference for a more disease resistant floribunda. Kordes is the rose breeder I would direct you to. This company has released a number of red floribundas, some of which have achieved the ADR designation for being exceptionally disease resistant roses, found to be so through passing extensive trials in ground in test gardens. Chamblees on line nursery has a number of Kordes red floribundas. Call them and ask which ones are ADR recipients and give these roses careful consideration. This is my best advice to you. Moses...See More- 4 years ago
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