Master suite remodel

4 years ago

I’m considering a master suite remodel and have two possible layouts under consideration. I am looking for feedback on the following things.

Which is better functionally?
Does the preferred option add more value to the property?
Would one be considered an under improvement considering the entire property?

Background.

Property is just shy of 3000 SF in `an affluent area with lots of homes built in the 60’s that are being rehabbed. Some major overhauls and some cosmetic updates.
This property will be undergoing a major overhaul and this is part of the project.

Comparison
Master bedrooms are about the same size.
Master closet on left is about 6x8 master closet on the right is about 7x12
Master bath on left is about 12x8. Master bath on right is about 6x16

Work required on left is essentially a re-configuration of existing footprint. Work required on right is a complete gut including reframing ceiling and moving an adjacent bedroom wall 2’ to make room for new configuration. I’m considering this because I want the master suite to be sufficient for the rest of the house and an addition is not possible.

Thanks for any comments.

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Mark Bischak, Architect

4 years ago

Another concept:

The bathroom is a space that needs to be sized to serve its purpose, usually a short length of time. The closet needs to be sized to store the amount of clothes you want to store, sometimes smaller closets encourage good habits. The bedroom will be occupied by someone(s) unconscious most of the time it is occupied.

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chispa
4 years ago
I would rather have less bedroom space and more bathroom and closet space. You can have a nice master bedroom in a 12' x 14' space. Move the bedroom to the outside walls. A closet in an outside corner is wasted potential for windows.
monsieursmith
Original Author
4 years ago
I appreciate the feedback. I agree with the concept. In fact, I have explored that, but given the rooms to the right of the master, it’s difficult to move the bedroom to the outer edge, and a lot of space ends up being wasted with a long hall.

I will probably give it another look, but i fear in the end I will be left with on of the two options originally posted.
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cpartist
4 years ago
Not the way you have it configured where you're giving up the desired corner space for a bedroom and giving it over to a closet and bath. Ideally you want a bedroom (and public rooms) to have windows on 2 walls for light and cross breezes.

Additionally both are poorly laid out.

1. A 6 x 8 closet means you can only have hanging on one side unless you intend to hang on the two short sides.

The bath is 8' wide or 96" wide. You need a minimum of 3' for the enclosed toilet or else it will feel like a closet. Add to that 4" for walls. That leaves you 56" wide. A vanity is 21" deep which leaves you with 35" which isn't even a normal walkway of 36". It will be too tight.

2. The problem with this arrangement is every time you want to go to the bathroom (think middle of the night) it means walking clear around the bed to get to the bathroom. I wouldn't want to be the spouse who's closer to the closet.

Add to that the problem in the morning of running back and forth between the closet (going around the bed each time) and the bathroom trying to get ready or at night doing the reverse getting ready for bed.

The 6'8" closet width is still too small for hanging on both of the long sides. The minimum needed for hanging on 2 sides is 7'. Why? Hanging clothes take up 2' of space. 7' - 4' = 3' which again is the minimum you would want for walkway into a closet and especially a long one.

In both designs if either one needs the facilities in the middle of the night, it means possibly waking the other spouse when it comes time to turn on the bathroom light. And then there is the problem of getting back to the bed without stubbing your shin on the side of the bed.

Post the full floor plan so we can see if there's a better solution.
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Mark Bischak, Architect
4 years ago
Consider this concept.
And no gas chamber.
monsieursmith
Original Author
4 years ago
I think the area available would be perfect if we just wore loin cloth. Then I could get rid of the closet.

I will simplify my comment. Would you rather have a small closet and small bathroom together, or a more modern size bathroom and closet separate from each other? Or would you rather have a small master, small closet and small bathroom more properly placed?

When in this confined of area it’s amazing how valuable even 21SF becomes...3’x7’ hall.

ITs clear everyone wants the bedroom at the back but that means a sub 12’ wide master bedroom to get the minimum dimensions for the other rooms.

Maybe there is no good solution.
cpartist
4 years ago
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In my upscale condo rental, the master bedroom was 12' and it was plenty to have room for a king sized bed and a dresser.

Do the math because your measurements above for the bath and closet do not work.

A 12' wide bedroom means you have 144". A king sized bed is 80" long. That leaves you with 64" of space in front of the bed. A dresser is 21" deep so that still leaves you with 43" of clear walking space between the dresser and the bed. And that's if you put the bed against the long wall.

If you put it against the short wall, a king bed is 76" wide. So 144" wide - 76" leaves you with 68" or 34" of space on either side of the bed. Just 2" shy of the absolute ideal of 36".

Either way you'd have a much better layout with Mark's first version with windows on more than one wall and no one would have to walk completely around the bed to get to the bathroom if you put the bed on the long wall. Additionally, no one is turning on the light and waking the other in the middle of the night.

And lastly because there's no shared wall with the bedroom in his version, no shared noises.