As you have experienced from life outside Chicago, rose growing in Spain will be a totally different and hopefully more fulfilling experience for cutting roses. I'll wipe the drool off my keyboard and give you a general sense of growth patterns for the roses I grow among your list, since I grow or have grown most of them that are accessible here (never heard of Liparfum but it sounds like it would be good cut). Roses that will probably be tall for you (which is more than "tall" was in Chicago): Frederick Mistral Queen of Sweden (like Lily said, very narrow growth habit) St. Cecilia Abraham Darby (though it's wildly variably here - mine never topped knee height but a friend across town has a very bushy 6X6' plant there) Roses that will probably be relatively short for you: Lady of Shalott Solero Purple Lodge (wider than tall, grows in sprawl pattern) Princess A. of Kent (but it has long canes and loves to sprawl) I have grown the following in part sun/part shade and they don't bloom as often but tolerate it OK (notably all Austins and shrubs, HTs like sun): Queen of Sweden St. Cecilia Abraham Darby Lady of Shalott Best/most frequent bloomers for me: Lady of Shalott Solero St. Cecilia Princess A of Kent (though young and still gaining her footing) I haven't grown: A Whiter Shade of Pale, Alabaster, Artemis, J.W. von Goethe, Liparfum. The ones I haven't listed above were either marginally hardy for me, relatively new (e.g. Wollerton Old Hall), or medium height and OK bloom for me (e.g. The Pilgrim). Obviously things will differ in your zone, but that's my experience. Looks like you're going to have a lot of fun, and we want pictures of course when they get good and settled in. Cynthia

Whoa, this looked better on my phone/tablet, I swear! 'Florentina' again. From ARE, didn't bloom the first year I got her, then threw a bunch of blooms at me after I moved her! She must have feared the shovel, ha! More LOS Here's LOS, 'Julia Child', and 'Princess Elise', with either Winter Sun/Winter Sunset on the right, just out of sight. That's a 'Walker's Low' catmint in the front, which I might move to the back of the tower. I had 'America' sweet peas in the middle of this one. This is the basic design of my towers, for now - three (supposed to be) short roses in the front, and climbers on the towers. I can't remember if this one is 'Bolero', 'Wedding Garland', or 'Honeymoon'. I'm thinking it's Bolero. Apparently I didn't get any pics of 'Honeymoon' or 'Wedding Garland'. I'll have to fix that this spring!

Thank you everyone! All of you have been an inspiration. Marlorena, you are so kind. I have a particular fondness for English gardens, not just roses, but the gardens in general, such beauty! Vaporvac, I do have many fragrant roses, unfortunately my sense of smell isn’t very strong, so I can rarely detect the fragrances in the air, I have to be close to them to enjoy the fragrance, but I definitely would rather they be fragrant. When I bring bouquets in the house occasionally I will pick up the fragrances, but not always. I love climbers, you must have a beautiful yard. altorama, I sure enjoyed the pictures you posted on the Climbing Roses thread, you have some beauties! I am very excited to see what Lavender Lassie does, I’ve certainly admired the pictures. flowersandmusic, thank you, I imagine your roses are beautiful! I’ve always enjoyed having lots of color in my beds, even though a lot of times pink dominates, but I do have varying shades of it. My biggest problem at times is planting a rose in the front row, when it should have been in the back, HMF isn’t always the best source for determining how tall a rose will get, I get it wrong occasionally. There are so many people in this area who don’t think they could grow roses, but all I know is there are some varieties and classes that work, and some that don’t, just like anywhere else. Every year is different, some better than others, but always worth the effort, I wouldn’t want to be without my roses!

SOLD OUT roses (3pm PDT 9/13/2019): Augusta Louise, Barock, Baronne Prévost, Belle Sans Flatterie, Biedermeier Garden, Black Caviar, Bullata, Butterfly, Chartreuse de Parme, Chloris, Cornelia, Dainty Bess, Double Delight, Duchesse de Montebello, Edgar Degas,Elfi von Dassanowsky, Emma Haftl, Great Maidens Blush, Grimm Brother Fairy Tale, Gros Choux d'Hollande, Kazanlik, Larissa, Mme Pierre Oger, Moonstone, Mothersday, Our Anniversary, Queen of Denmark, Reine de Violettes, Rosa gallica 'Officinalis, Rosa Mundi, Rosanna, Rose du Maître d'École, Sidonie, Skyrocket, Sunbeam Veranda, Westerland, and Yolande d'Aragon. Helen