Tile-setter put cracked mesh mounted tile on shower wall -wwyd?!
Kennon Johnson
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Repair 1980s shower wall tile
Comments (2)You want enough of the old bond coat to be scraped, ground, or otherwise removed, so that when you reinstall the tile that came off, it'll be flush with the tile that's still up. Once that's done, yes, you can go directly over what you have with thinset. In fact, you couldn't ask for a stronger wall....See MoreShower wall grout cracking, normal with house settling?
Comments (20)"One shower wall is an exterior wall, another has no cabinetry on the other side, and another has very minimal cabinetry." Well then, there you go. It's not due to work that was done on the other side of the wall. ie, no one tiled a wall then had other workers beat the heck out of the other side of the wall, causing the tile to crack. Could it be settling? Sure, But if it is, it's unusual. When a house settles, cracking usually first occurs in the changes of plane (corners) because those are the weakest points in a structure. If the grout between the field tiles within a wall is cracking due to the house settling, that's significant in terms of it being a significant structural issue. Also, you have marble tiles which are not very strong. If you had significant structural issues, your tiles could crack too. But again, looking at the grout itself: pinholes in the grout, raked out grout lines, inconsistent surface texture of the grout within the grout lines. And the cracks that look more like shrinkage cracks instead of structural cracks? Those are all signs of a poor installation by the person that installed the grout. "How can you tell the grout wasn't mixed well? " Because everything you described, and everything I see in the photo, is a symptom of that. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm telling you that's my opinion based upon the evidence you have provided. And that's assuming (rut row) that he properly installed and prepared the tile backer board. If he didn't properly detail the backer board then the seams in the backer board could telegraph through as cracks in the grout. But you provide no information on that. Just the photo. But based upon the information you have provided, in my opinion it's simply a grout installation issue, and it's the fault of the installer. But again, that's simply my opinion. Good luck with your remediation....See MoreKitchen backsplash - mesh-mounted or field tile backsplash?
Comments (12)lmao. what Jan said! Although, I had to help out my guys who did my herringbone wood floor. it's the starting point where everyone gets messed up. after that, it's simple. Look up how to properly start a herringbone layout and read it. you need to use a speed square at the end of your tile in order to get the proper middle starting point. much easier to illustrate than trying to write it out here. This is how I showed my guys how to start it. see the blue tape w/the two lines? you have to start on the middle after you mark your corner. that's the only way you will get perfect even cuts on both ends. this is how most do it, and it's not correct IF you want perfectly symmetrical left/right borders. All he's done is set the corner of the tile on the line. doing it like this will leave you w/one side smaller than the other: see how the sides of the window don't match? this is what you don't want. your tile guy should be doing a dry layout in order to determine where he starts so he doesn't get this look or these tiny triangles. Again,,,see how the ends don't match below? the right has longer tiles than the left edge. that's because of the way he started his first tile. And don't do these vertical tiles for your edging. get proper bullnose tiles, pencil liner or a Schluter edge. This is a layout board of my herringbone for my shower. took a few hours in order to get this almost perfect. since this was an odd size, and the tiles were even at 3x12, it couldn't be perfect. the right bottom corner triangle is the only portion that doesn't match. luckily, it's not readily visible! Even the subway tiles are perfectly matched. this layout took hours to get exact, even around the niche. 2x6your 3x9 will be 1/3 larger. 3x9 is a good size for a backsplash. this is a regular 3x6. again, a 3x9 will give you 1/3 longer....See Morebathroom wall tile cracks
Comments (26)FinPan Underlayments They are saying the cement board is waterproof. Is that correct? NO! Absolutely NOT!! See the info linked above. The ProTec product used in your showers is water 'resistant'. It is NOT 'waterproof'. Note that you have the cement board product. Which is ordinary run of the mill cement board that requires additional waterproofing measures. Either poly sheeting behind OR surface waterproofing like RedGuard, etc. You do not have the FinPan Pro Panel. Per the website: ProPanel® is a new generation of backerboard that offers waterproof performance all in a six pound board that is mold and mildew resistant. ProPanel® consists of high-density expanded polystyrene reinforced on both sides with fiberglass mesh and a polymer cement coating. It passes ANSI A 118.10 test for water proofness. It does look like the Fin Par ProTec is labeled as waterproof on their website. No, no, no. ProTec is labeled as water resistant. ProPanel is the 'waterproof' product. Again, you have the ProTec 'water resistant' cement board....See Moremainenell
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