Would not do one against a wall without it facing windows.

Invest in a pad of graph paper and draw, to scale, the your room, including windows and doors and appliances and fixed items (sink). Posting that might get you a suggestion for a solution.

Is there a wall between your kitchen and dining room (or between kitchen and family room) that you could open up with a "window" in it, putting your countertop atop that wall?

Is there a place to create a peninsula between the kitchen and any breakfast nook or dining room with a bar on the dining or family room side of it?

Looking out a window and facing a wall are not the same thing and without seeing your kitchen pretty hard to say much. We need as mentioned an actual floor plan to scale with as much detail as possible . Pictures of the space are good. Make sure the meausrements on on a drawing that can enlarged. Make sure you post the pics one at a time in a comment. each one has to be no longer grayed before adding the next one when done just submit.

I would not enjoy looking at a wall. I don't think I'd really enjoy looking out a window either as I'd feel like I'm in a cafe. If this is the only way you can get bar-type seating I'd skip it altogether.

It’s old fashioned. We had that as kids. A bar facing the wall in the kitchen. A great place to do homework and have a quiet before-school breakfast.

it still gives you the casual seating for guests hanging out in your kitchen, but it’s not ideal.

People want to face the cook. Not have their backs to them in a time out corner!

Add a window.

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I've seen that done in NYC apartments. It's grim looking to me.

I don’t think it will work anyway as we would lose function of the top drawers, below the counter overhang. Now debating a small island and have posted a thread about that.

we had planned on a peninsula, but might not be able to do it.

This is the corner in question- fridge would have to go back where it was. Wall can not be taken completely out for the original plan of a peninsula.

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You might want to consider wiring that framed in wall so you could turn the frige and put it opposite the proposed "island," which I would eliminate. Then you can do a small corner nook with a table and bench behind the fridge. If you can imagine the big cabinet on the right as the fridge with a nook tucked in the corner behind it, you'll see what I'm thinking.

I had one exactly like that but deeper and taller, also facing the wall, but my kitchen.is all a light color. I'm have a condo and it was custom made to match kitchen counters. High back stools, deeper table top with big (deeper) cabinets and two drawers. Ate breakfast there each morning before work, any quick meals on the run, and did paper tasks, budgets, grocery lists, srudy, homework, invites & laptop work, etc. No, window or lookimg out meant I could eqsily concentrate. Not sure If it was completely stand alone or somehow atrached to wall. But no damage to wall when it was taken out (??). Something came loose in the back after maybe 15-20 yrs and whatever it was, it must have been the main aupporting element as it begin to disasemble from the back. Thinking I would just get a small breakfast table for two, I had them take it out. Kitchen is small but square and has never been the same. After a few years, I was now looking on line to replace it when I came across your writing. It's not so much the table top I miss, but the extra drawers and the large cabinet spaces. It stood in the middle of a short wall alone and was totally custom made to match exactly the colors of the kitchen, and had the same heavy counter as the rest. My grandchildren had their snacks there, even liked to eat there, especially if I was still busy in the kitchen, itnalso caused coloring books, etc, even dolls, etc., to come to that kitchen breakfast counter, rather than in the dining area just outside of the kitchen. I hope to have something similar replace it... But grandchildren are all grown up. Memories...

All my lower cabinets are drawers, big pot drawers, drawers for mixing bowls etc, they are the bomb. I’m puzzled why you want seating when the table is right close by. Don’t you need really good efficient kitchen storage first and foremost? You may want to add some more pics of each wall.

Oh! Didn’t realize this was an older post.