Pirelli Webbing - MCM sofa suspension
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Comments (40)lynnski, I got "Elasabelt" webbing from this place: link It's like an extremely heavy-duty elastic that barely stretches at all when you pull on it, but it has a nice amount of give when you sit on it. They also have metal clips that you hammer onto the ends of the webbing and which then fit into slots in the chair seat frame on some types of chairs. But my friends who deal in MCM furniture say that these often pop out so you're better off just stapling or tacking the ends to the wood. I have seen one other type of chair that has little metal brackets that screw into the wood and you slip the ends of the webbing through them and screw them tight. What I did was tack the free end to the frame, then made a mark on the webbing about 2.5" from the inside edge of the frame. Then I stretched the webbing until that mark was at the edge of the frame. This was so that I got the same amount of tension in each strap. It was also about as tight as I could pull it myself, and it took everything I had to hold it there while stapling. A webbing stretcher helped a lot, i found out later! But if you have a helper, it's easier. One person can stretch and hold (esp. if it's someone strong) while the other staples or tacks. I used an electric staple gun with 3/8" staples and put about 12 in each end. Maybe 16, i forget! Carpet tacks would also work but a stapler is quicker. Once you have 3 staples in, the other person can let go. That link above also has the Pirelli webbing but it costs a lot more and I don't know that it's any better. It seems like it might even deteriorate faster since the rubber is coating the webbing and therefore is exposed to light and air, which rots it over time. The Elasabelt's rubber is covered with a thread wrapping like regular elastic. Anyway, hope this helps!...See MoreNylon and jute webbing instead of springs on sofa
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Thank you to everyone for your feedback. Tartenmeup, your blog link was very useful in regards to the Pirelli system specifically. The information that it was often used in MCM due to the more bulky suspension systems not fitting the space of those "sleek" designs was informative. The sofa I was looking at on CL was not cheap, ~$8,000 new ($700 on CL, though!). It was a design model that was featured in an exhibit at MOMA ~10 years ago. As I would assume the Pirelli system (utilizing the best webbing) is also much less labor intensive, one assumes that the high cost of the sofa is more about where it came from, etc. than a reflection of the time/craft intense labor that went into it. But I'm not redoing the living room for the purpose of dropping names, definitely a "pretty is as pretty does" functionality is important. And of course, I have to like it!
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In addition, this may also explain the suspension system in the MCM sofa I purchased from Sweden 30 years ago which just has a tight metal woven grid (looks like the wires are knotted to the frame). It sits a bit like a very firm mattress (with cushy cushions). I had posted about it previously having no familiarity with that system either. Ironically, this is the sofa that was potentially being replaced by the one above, lol.
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