I have H. 'Ben More'. Mine finished blooming about a week or two ago. I love Helianthemum, especially this cultivar. Cut yours back after flowering and you might get a couple more blooms on it. I imagine your plants are either too small to bloom now (maybe next year) or are 'off cycle' from being forced in a greenhouse. CMK

I'm thinking of getting these this year. I'm trying to create a bee garden, and every year I see these and want them and never get them. I tried I think it was called "Icicle" veronica and it got really nasty looking. There wasn't much sign of life, so we got rid of it. We are going to put some clay breaker down because there is some clay in that area. Hopefully that will help some of the drainage.

Oh, I have a long list of things I want to winter sow this year, some of which I'll have to cut because I don't think I'll have the room for them all, but a few on your list are on mine too. I just have to get around to ordering the seeds. There are some others I would love to try, but can't find the seeds for, so I'll have to buy plants next spring, if they're available. Mostly what I'm going to sow are natives for sun and shade, they'll be planted around what will be our new garage. It's going up this fall, and if I have time, I'll prepare the beds before winter. The plants I had around the old garage are in pots, and I hope to overwinter them in the pots and plant in the spring, but I may get backup seeds in case they don't. I'm more excited about winter sowing this year than I had been in the past few. Oh, and I have daylily seeds that I crossed that'll be sown too. Karen

Here's my 2 cents. For peonies what I tried this year, was putting chickenwire pieces over the shoots in early spring. The shoots then grow up taking the chickenwire with it as support. Even with a peony ring, Honey Gold would always flop over, but last night even dh had mentioned how much better it looked this year. Here's a pic, So I wonder if this wouldn't work for other plants. I realize that veronica is shorter, but if you bent the edges down by about 5" to form a kind of a box, then the plant should be supported well. What do ya think? Laurie