It does look like Whiskey Mac, the fragrance of this rose fills an entire room, the scent is just beautiful, Sultry says it's a mild fragrance, in the beginning this rose is very dark peach and then gets lighter with a little tiny pink on the outer petals... I love it. Whiskey Mac says it's a strong frangrance. It might be the one. This is a very old bush in some apts. and it's a large bush. Thank you

I know they're meant to be scented, but does anyone with knowledge of the old California roses think this could be Santa Rosa OR Burbank?? (Bit of a wild guess, but after all, it must be SOMETHING!) Are you in California, Emily, by any chance, or do you know where your SIL got her plant from? Is the deeper colour always there or does it develop only at certain times of year? And just another Q it might be as well to check - can you normally smell roses? Pardon my asking; it's just that it's not unusual for different people to not be able to detect certain rose scents (particularly teas, but others too) - and it might make our job a bit easier if this were a scented rose! If and whenever you're able to post photos, clear pics of both mature leaf sets and new growth, canes, prickles, buds at different stages, stipules and a whole mature plant shot might all help get us there. I wonder whether those canes on the left are hoping to get to that fence and climb... Comtesse :¬)

Thorns, no smell. Bush about 4 ft. Matte leaves. Thanks-:)

Hi everyone, Thank you for your quick responses and kind assistance! I apologize for the fuzzy photos; I wish I had had the time to take more. Those of us in the States all flew down to Montreal rather suddenly with the news, and all took turns keeping a 24/hr vigil over our beloved matriarch at the hospital, and then at her home when she was discharged for palliative care. That said, I am thrilled that F.J Grootendorst has been identified--thank you @Magda (Ontario, USDA4/5) @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) @User @stillanntn6b! Ann, thank you for letting me know about Claire Laberge--I will find her contact info! @bart bart Eilleen, not impertinent at all--this would be a perfect solution, and would love to be able to do so! I forgot to mention in my post that I now live in Kansas, and would be unable to bring cuttings across the border. Other family members are not interested/do not have the space for these roses in their garden. @Alana8aSC thank you for your kind words, I hope so too! As for rose #1, @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) yes, buds are mossy, and @stillanntn6b yes, they certainly did look like acorns. Another interesting feature of rose #1 is that it bloomed beautifully in part shade, if not full shade, in some spots. It is intertwined with a number of grapevines and invasive shrubs. I don't know if this feature is due to the extent to which it has been established in the area, the prized soil on the island (my husband remarked that he could see "the silica sparkling in the soil"), or the variety itself. As for rose #3, I would say that the roses were already in full bloom by the time I arrived (June 3). I will see if I have other photos. Thank you again!