EbbTide question
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Comments (9)It is probably better to keep them off the ground unless you want to encourage rooting (tip-layering). When I experimented with the looping-under type of self-pegging, I did not get dieback. It probably depends on the variety. I consider looping-under a step on the way to a dense pruned shrub. (Who wants what Pat43 called the "origami" look?) Dieback would not be catastrophic since the alternative was to cut the whippy shoots back sooner. JumboJimmy, you just have to observe and experiment. You will probably get strong laterals from the top of the arch. These can create a "bad-hair" look, so you may want to cut them back after blooming. If you want to, eventually you can cut the looped canes off at the arch and reserve the self-pegging treatment for strong new basals or semi-basals. Self-pegging as opposed to pruning-up may conserve plant energy and hasten development of a mature shrub. With either approach, you are trying to limit the plant's spread and make it more dense. This is opposed to Jeri's approach of letting plants develop naturally in a generous space....See MoreEbb Tide Rose question
Comments (7)That's one of the overwhelming reasons to only buy own root roses. Another example is that in zone 5 where I once gardened there is no need to worry about winter loss of the rootstock. In those zone 5 days mail order own root nurseries were very difficult to find - I had to order from a Canadian company to get them then. These days they are abundant and many seem to be doing well as businesses as more and more people intelligently give up on grafted roses. Own root roses do take a couple of years to establish, but unless you're 93 it's worth the wait as they outperform grafted plants ever after that. Hell if I were 93 I wouldn't likely be planting anything but I can hope I will still be doing so then. And even then I would plant own root. I wish I could testify about Ebb Tide own root personally but it is one of only two roses I grow that are grafted. And only because I already knew I wanted it when I saw it in a local nursery 50% off. How could I resist? Well, I did try. I can tell you that like all grafteds I've grown, this Ebb Tide bush is UGLY compared to any and all of my own root bushes. The bush mind you. The flowers are fine. But its ugliness dooms it to a future encounter with Mr. Shovel which I doubt I'd be planning to do if it were own root....See MoreNew Rose Questions
Comments (6)For clusters, clip them one by one. But after the entire cluster is no longer blooming, make a cut further down, to approximately 1/2 inch beyond a five-leaf leaflet. That's generally the proper place to make a deadheading cut. The point is that if there is just one flower on the cane or stem, you can cut at that proper place when you deadhead the one flower. But for a cluster, you can't really cut at that place until you are removing the final flower of the cluster. Generally, if a rose is specified to be "okay for shade", it means it will still flower for you despite being shaded part of the day. In southwest Michigan where I live, full sun all day with no shade at all would be optimum for the best flowering (provided I can water when rain is inadequate). Because my yard has no all-day-sunny locations, I am always focused on roses that can do well despite being shaded part of the day. Furthermore, to be more specific, because black spot is a problem in my part of the country, my best locations for roses are where the sun shines on the plants in the morning to dry the dew or any night-time rain. Shade in the morning and sun for 5 hours later is enough for flowering, but the morning shade invites black spot. If you go into your settings and embed your location and hardiness zone into your "name", everyone will be able to give you advice tailored for your area. I think I'll bump up my old how-to thread. Here in Michigan, the roses are just leafing out. I can hardly wait til early June when they bloom! You must be south of me to be deadheading already!...See MoreAn possible alternative to ebb tide and twilight zone
Comments (85)Gardening_7b I am not an expert, I just like purple and some of those are newer and small. Lol After looking at HMF, it looks like the Purple Princes are two different roses. My BPP was planted last fall so is very small, a little over a foot tall, but has bloomed and it was a medium-dark magenta so far, it seems very healthy so far. It may change when it matures. I live in z5a Wisconsin so can't comment on da "heat". We rarely get up to 95 degrees in the summer, we can get bad humidity and low 90's for 7-10 days in the summer just as -10-20 in the winter for the same number of days, 46 inches of rain per year average. :) Diane, your roses get so huge! I get some rogue canes that are 5' tall but so far nothing consistent. That Clown Prince is a very pretty rose with the variations of color. I put Ebb Tide so it gets late afternoon shade because I didn't know if it faded and the hottest time of the day here is about 4:00. We'll see what experience I get with Big Purple, it's always fun to compare with other areas of the country. :)...See MorenanadollZ7 SWIdaho
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