Any advice to save own root rose dying back?

5 years ago

This is a, three year old plant in a,pot. I think I should have repotted it last year but I didn't. I was so busy, yea, no excuses but anyway this spring it made weak stems and leaves. I tried to feed but maybe the roots weren't strong. The new growth got fired. I took it out of the pot. Soil was garbage. Poor thing! So then I repotted removing half the soil and replacing with Sandy loam and sand. Put in shade a week to watch. All the foliage has dried and now dropped. The stems are drying up. I cut it back and now just have mature wood and I think the roots are viable. No great green last year canes. Hoping it will do something from the root or base of a branch. Really neat rose and can't get it again. Any suggestions for what to do. Build a humidity tent or just leave it alone? It hasn't been hot. It's in morning sun now. I blew it with this one but every other rose was fine, didn't burn. Cr#p.

Ps: no sign of root issues like galls, etc.

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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

5 years ago

I don't have the experience to add anything useful to what the others have said re your not-happy rose, Kitty, but I just want to say how lovely it is to hear from you again on this forum (Antique Roses).

It seems like years since we've had the pleasure of reading your posts here regularly and seeing photos of your beautiful garden, with - IIRC - many large, beautiful mature specimens of (mostly?) older roses.

If you're able, and feel like it, it would be lovely to see or hear updates of how your roses (and garden) are going, sometime.. and if not, welcome back anyway.

Comtesse :-)

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
5 years ago
Kitty, which rose is this? When you cut into the mature wood was the inside green and healthy? If so then I would think the rose has a good chance. If the cut edge is beige or brown then there probably isn't much hope. I would keep it cool, with just a little early morning sun so it doesn't get stressed. Give it enough water but don't let it get water-logged.
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witchygirrl6bwv
5 years ago
I've had own roots surprise me as I was making plans to dig them up. Completely dead to the ground from winter, and start growing again. I was late getting Versigny planted last year, thought it didn't survive winter. It's growing now. I cut the dead part back to the ground. I'm making some alfalfa tea for it, and the rest.
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User
5 years ago
Get it out of the pot and into the ground (ideally in a place where it is shaded from noon on), then mound the soil up leaving just the tips of the existing canes. Water, and hope.
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
5 years ago
I have PTSD just hearing about this problem as I saw Baby Jesse Hildreth #1 & 2 fade away. Jesse #3 is doing fabulous. I hope you can tell us who this plant is and maybe we can help you get another one.
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jacqueline9CA
5 years ago
What Paul said.

Jackie
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User
5 years ago
I know how you feel. I lost a new one this year because I waited too long to repot. Like you, I didn't like the soil the nursery used. It was too heavy, wet, and looked like the roots just didn't want to spreat out or grow in it.

When I did repot it, it had started to die back, and I considered taking cuttings from the last bit of green canes left, but didn't--thinking I was repotting in time to save it. I think it's dead now. I'm waiting to see if it will send up something new from the roots, but no signs so far. I put myself on a wishlist for another one, but....

I was going to suggest taking cuttings as a last ditch effort, but it sounds like you've cut it back already. Keeping my fingers crossed for you...
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altorama Ray
5 years ago
I just had a very large established rose die to the ground and 3 weeks later two new shoots are appearing. Own root rose. I agree, get it in the ground, and keep watering.
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kittymoonbeam
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5 years ago
I will do just as you say Paul. This is a mutation of a known rose. As far as I know it's one of a kind. I will put it in slanted into the ground. Don't want to cut off too much cane or is this wrong and I should shorten almost to the 8 inches to the roots. There is sort of some last years cane left about 18 inches up so I am planning on planting sort of horizontally so that part is barely exposed. Thanks so much to our kind friends and expert trauma rose docs.

I've had my share of rose miracles in the past. Don't deserve another but maybe just maybe she lives.
User
5 years ago
Paul and Jackie, why do you say get it out of the pot and into the ground? I'm not challenging the statement,I'm just hoping to learm something; I don't have a lot of experience with own-root roses...
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5 years ago
A stressed rose grown in a pot is much more likely to be exposed to extremes of temperature and water availability (IE: drying out), whereas a rose planted in the ground is far less likely to experience either of those things. Consistent conditions can help in "healing" a sick/stressed rose, in my experience. Burying the canes also helps avoid desiccation by sun and wind exposure, which can finish off a rose that has compromised roots - you can't do that easily with a plant in a container.
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5 years ago
Thanks, Paul!

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