Which finish is more durable -factory baked or conversion varnish?
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varnish: pre cat vs. cat. conversion?
Comments (6)Hi-Kandt, glad to be of help if I can. The touch up thing has me a little confused as to what you're expecting to be able to do in that regards. Basically you are going to have a pigmented paint covered by a clear finish and to complicate things a glaze layer (which should be separated from the paint by a clear sealer which could be CV or vinyl sealer which is also compatible). What I'm saying is you have this multi-layered finish and if you chip it down to bare wood you can't just expect to touch up one small spot without it being noticeable. Maybe on the edge of a door with a small artist brush you could get away with it somewhat. So when the painter says one is easier to repair than the other I'm not sure what he's talking about. A sprayed finish of any kind is always going to show a repair because the texture is different. CCV also referred to sometimes as post-cat. is a harder finish than pre. and to me the touch up would be the same. The BM paint I'm assuming is water-based which is fine but not as hard as a pigmented CV as your color coat. I'm doing several different finishes on sample doors right now and one of them is a water-based Farrow & Ball paint with a clear CV top coat. I can't tell you how durable this is because I'm actually trying to get it to chip so there is something under it to cause that. It's a Chalon finish and really difficult to pull off and have it look naturally aged. For the glazed door I'm doing what I described above which is color CV, rub-through, clear CV, glaze and clear CV top coat. Glazing is a whole other subject and can look great if done well or not. Hard maple will be best for a smooth finish and is less susceptible to dings and dents. Are they being painted on site or in a shop? Are you in LA also? John...See Moreconversion varnish versus BM satin impervo oil
Comments (6)We have Satin Impervo oil-based on our old cabinets (but newish paint). It definitely looks more like paint than conversion varnishes (if that makes sense) but it also performs more like paint too, and has chipped in a few spots. Easy to fill in, but my understanding is that conversion varnish doesn't do that to the same degree. Down side to conversion varnish is that it will look less hand-painted, if you care about that. Generally I like the Satin Impervo, though--wipes down easily, relatively rugged given the use the cabinets get, looks pretty smooth. Ours is also on top of many layers of old paint, which I imagine affects how much it chips, so may perform much better as the first and only layer....See MoreMost durable hardwood finish?
Comments (11).Minwax owns Duraseal, Duraseal is easier to apply so we ususally use it unless we can't get it, I cannot say that (if done properly) there has been much difference other than the ease of applying duraseal (and you can thank the EPA for these finishes becoming harder to apply over the years...and more expensive). I'm 60, over the years I really don't recall much of a difference other than that. I did talk to their chemistry department years and years ago,..(to find out the difference between their duraseal vs. minwax), after that call I realized that in the end, there was probably a minimal difference ..other than duraseal is much easier to use. As far as duraseal being a lot more expensive than minwax ...My cost on Duraseal is really not much more than minwax (actually, I haven't used minwax for a long time,..so I cannot say that is still the case today). Waterborne finishes are quite expensive, and in my opinion,..not better in most cases. They rarely yellow much, if at all. The only times we have gone with waterborne is because the wood is bleached, whitewashed, or otherwise very light and we do not want to darken or amber it with an oil based finish. If you really want to go with the best finish,. have them use a conversion varnish,..Sherwin Williams makes conversion varnish, but I highly doubt they make one suitable for floors. You will most probably have to go with "Glitsa" if you want conversion varnish. If your flooring guy is not aware of Glitsa, he is NOT a seasoned professional. To me it smells a bit like lacquer. Conversion varnish is oil base,. and also has the property that it does not yellow much over time. It stays looking the same (more than other oil based finishes). If they use glitsa in your house, they will probably want you to to stay at your mother-in-laws for a day or two. So be forewarned....See MoreConversion Varnish on a kitchen table top
Comments (2)It’s not going to yellow. But a white kitchen table will show every single mark of normal wear and tear. You miss the coaster just one and drag the coffee cup across the table, that fired ceramic will leave a faint scratch. Hit the edge with enough force, and that will give you a chip. Plain paint will be easier to touch up. Life happens. And life will show. It will show less on wood....See Morejdesign_gw
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