Al and Nathan, I hope that you don't mind my sharing a humorous story about Turface, that really highlights your points and underscores how respected a product Turface is in the industry. My son is a Turf Grass Agronomy major at a large Southern university, and did an internship last spring/summer at one of the major league baseball spring training facilities in Florida. Turface is used for excess water on the fields that occurs during rainstorms, especially those "popcorn" showers (downpours) that occur frequently in Florida. It has helped prevent many a game "rainout" due to its effectiveness. It takes many bags of Turface to do this (for one game), which can become a bit pricey---so it's a protected commodity in the baseball industry. During one sudden torrential downpour, the Grounds Crew quickly pulled the tarp over the infield, and then took cover in the visiting team's dugout to wait out the storm. The Turface bags were kept to the side in the visiting dugout, near where the Grounds workers were standing. The visiting team's pitcher had a bad inning just prior to the rainstorm, and came into the dugout kicking and throwing things, as they sometimes do. As he looked for things to use to vent his frustration, he eyed the bags of Turface to the side, and the Grounds workers caught his glance, and could tell that he was tempted to kick them, also. They immediately, in *unison*, said "don't even think about it!". Throw your glove, knock over some bats, kick the bubblegum containers over, but don't mess with the Turface...unless you want to take on the Grounds Crew... :)

I Florida Weave my tomatoes, have been for years. I think it works really well, and at the end of the season, I just cut all the twine and the whole thing comes down in a snap. If you end up liking it, you may want to slowly replace your 2X2's with t-posts. The notches in the t-posts come in really really handy for the Florida Weave. But like you, I started first with 2X2s that I ripped from 2X6's. Still have those and use them for other things.

paully1 with all the information that I have been able to abtain seems that 16 to 18 inches apart is the closest as the plants grow from year to year they need the spacing in order to get larger spears if you space to close they will produce small spears and if to close you might run the risk of diseases spreading faster. I was planning on 20 two year crowns so I will have to make the bed longer or split into a few different beds. Everyone encourges to plan well and prepare the soil& beds deep and after that its easy going. I hope that my limited info helps, just as a side note before purchasing the correct varity for my area (Jersey supreme hybrid) I bought Mary Washington 2 year crowns from the local big box store around Jan 15th or so, I wasn`t going to use them in the raised bed and didn`t feel like throwing them away so I did a kind of test run I planted them in a large container 2ft wide by 30 inches deep and what resulted in super skinny stalks a bit thicker than a tooth pick, but they are about 2 foot high and starting to fern out. And not many sprouted, I think I will not buy bare root plants from the local big box stores anymore I also bought strawberries 20 plants in a bag and they are not looking like they are going to sprout so they may be cheap but if none live its a waste of money. I am going to cruise this website and see who the reputable nurserys are and spend my meager little pennies with them. If you find out some more info on asparagus let me know. :o)Deanna

I bet some people would have no problem telling GW to "stick it". I almost feel like I am ok with a welcome sticky that periodically sinks. We have a board sticky now that has stayed very close to the very top for 18 days. That is king of the hill to me. I think we already own the high ground without GW sanction. If we were NYC police we would not be arresting anybody or writing any tickets. It feels more: of the people. I'm happy with it. If it, our flag, ever sinks, you or anybody can repost the exact same or same with updates. I guess we can tell if it is working by people's first posts showing they have a working knowledge of vermicomposting or at least know, I don't know, anything about the subject, thus getting a better first question so we can actually help them a lot quicker and more effectively. A GW sanctioned sticky is now starting to feel like GW is from New Jersey and a sanctioned sticky (only one allowed!?!?) is starting to feel like cement overshoes.