Tamora is the healthiest of my 3 Austins (no spray), and though she's younger than 2 years old with less than a year in the ground, she has stayed under 2 ft so far for me. Still very young, but I love the blooms and the scent is heavenly! I don't have Princess Alexandra of Kent, but I've almost ordered her like a million times because of the supposed small size and darker pink color. I don't have much space in my tiny yard for rose giants! Lucky you with your brand new garden space! Post pics once you've decided and planted.

This is a lovely area. I went there with my family to spend time at a cottage. I can say that there are deer and there are bears too. Oh I must add that Kawartha's ice cream is incredibly yummy. I'm rather envious of you. In the meantime, I think you'd be happy to hear that there is a Peterborough horticultural society with an excellent website. http://www.peterboroughgardens.ca/ they will definitely provide you with more tips and places that sell stuff. In fact, I understand they are going to have a garden show soon and so several local suppliers will be present. I think that you should focus on what can grow beneath pine trees because the plant choices are limited. Conditions are very acidic because of the needles. You will need to focus on acid loving, dry shade plants. As for deer - there are many plants they will not eat, for example lamb's ears. Ianna

2004 FLORIBUNDA ROSE LIST PART 1 Listed below is a very comprehensive up to date listing of Floribunda roses, eligible to be exhibited in a rose show. All are registered with ARS, or assigned an approved exhibition name, "AEN". Many are varieties, which are not listed in the latest "AEN", or other ARS publications. Its a handy reference of information for judges and exhibitors, or anyone just interested in roses that will perform well in their garden, based on reports from people who have grown them over the years. Corrections / Additions / Deletions will be posted, as official information becomes available. Any help in making this list more accurate and beneficial to the user is always welcome. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KEY INFORMATION(1)-ARS "Approved Exhibition Name", AEN. (2)-ARS awards received. (3)-Blooming Habit: P, patio rose of adequate bloom and growth for container growing; CL, climbing variety; HB, hanging basket; G/D, garden / decorative. (4)-Petal age: single 4-11; semi-dbl 12-16; double 17-25; full 26-40; very full 41+ petals. (5)-Bloom Form: HT hybrid teas (exhibition); OGR old garden rose; open; flat; cupped. (6)-Bloom Size Open: Small, under 4cms 1.5"; Medium, 4 to 7 cms 1.5" to 2.75"; Large, 7+ cms 2.75+". (7)-Blooming Habit: BIC, borne in clusters; S, solitary. (8)-Color Classification. (9)-Year the rose was registered. (10)-The latest average national garden & exhibiting ratings: 9.3-10 one of the best; 8.8-9.2 outstanding; 8.3-8.7 excellent; 7.8-8.2 very good; 7.3-7.7 good; 6.8-7.2 average; 6.1-6.7 below average; 0.0-6.0 not recommended. (11)-Growth Habit: SG, spreading / ground cover, BG bushy; CG compact;,UG upright. (12)- Fragrance: A, fragrant or slightly fragrant; B, very fragrant.(13)- Plant Heights: L, under 24"; M, 24 to 36"; T, 36+". *************BY: Ronald Sshwerdt 5-14-04************* A.J. 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Kingcobb that looks like a fun program for planning. I draw mine out on graph paper with colored pencils. Yours is a definite technological upgrade. :) It's funny because I have seen on this forum how roses grow so differently in different areas, different climates, different soil, maybe with different rootstock, etc. I had no idea how much roses varied in their growth habits before I found this forum. So...Just in case a rose like Munstead Wood or Falstaff ends up growing huge right in the front of the walkway...reaching out and grabbing you as you walk by... you could always put something to support it (I'm a fan of obelisks, or even rebar sculpted, but you could use any kind of support). That way it kind of reigns it in and gives it an area to stay corralled in. Even if you want them to grow into a hedge over time I think you could still find a support to keep them growing in the direction you want and not into the pathways. Even like Jackie's gorgeous, huge Graham Thomas. That one has a support too. It keeps it in the area where it is supposed to be and helps to keep it looking neat and clean. I think supports (tripod supports, obelisks, rebar supports, trellises, or any type) could end up solving most spacing issues. Helps them bloom more too when you get the canes going a bit lateral. :) It's going to look and smell fabulous! I hope you post photos when you're all set!