New growth at odd time of year-caused by too much fertilizing ?
Heruga (7a Northern NJ)
5 years ago
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Ken B Zone 7
5 years agoMeyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
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Can there be too much organic fertilizer?
Comments (12)You can call it "smother" or you can call it "burn". 8^) In both cases it's too much organic material and the result is the same...dead grass. Oops! Seeing you're in IL, your summer weather isn't that much different than mine (drier, I think, but no hotter). I also had a Milorganite spill--about five pounds in a hand-sized area. I cleaned up what I could and figured there would be a bit of burn. There wasn't. I got a dinner-plate sized patch of the brightest green grass. I did irrigate very well for a week at that spot to help out where I could. Which is not to disagree, but more to say that care should be taken with spills and whatnot. Regular application at the recommended rate (or even a bit higher) will not burn. Concentrated spills certainly may. A more realisitic concern should be runoff. Quite correct and I should have thought of that (bad organicist, bad organicist!) In thin spots of grass, runoff would be a major concern. Fortunately, thick stands of grass tend to limit runoff to practically zip, even in severe weather. The water can't manage much velocity before striking and having to break around grass crowns and stems. Even so, if I lived next to a stream or lake or had a steep grade, I would be very careful not to overfeed (and would probably install a small berm at the stream/lake edge and not feed there). I don't, and my grade is less than 1% with a retention pond more than 1,500 feet away through a swale. I should have qualified that previous statement....See MoreNew Growth at This Time of Year?
Comments (11)I'd forgotten that S. robusta, especially, is pushing up LOTS of new growth right now! I'm not sure how 'it works', but my S. parva and S. sp. Lavranos & Bleck are both offset grown plants that are only 4? years old...but they're both in quite small pots as they're both rather small in stature. Both have offset freely (they're stoloniferous, actually) and will likely need new pots soon. The parva did spend this past summer outdoors, but the sp. LB has never left the house. It sits permanently in a sunny south window, near the pane, and it does get rather cool there at night. Remember a couple of years ago I'd posted worrying about that little sp. L&B that was going to flower? I was so worried that I'd lose it after flowering, but was assured that there was still a lot of 'action' going on inside that pot. Turned out to be so true, as the original plant is still alive and well! I'll try to get a photo of it...the blooms are almost opened. Ispahan....I suppose I could have my 'scents' mixed up! Wouldn't be the only thing;) I guess I don't know, offhand, what a hyacinth smells like....if you can believe that!?...See MoreFall - the best time to fertilize for root growth?
Comments (9)You've actually missed nothing, you just fell prey to older advertising (that's only partially correct). Phosphorus is used by the entire plant, but only in modest amounts due to the fact that the plant (and you, for that matter) internally recycle most of the phosphorus for use over and over again. If you remember your old ADP/ATP energy reactions from high school, that's a great example of it. Roots won't grow without adequate phosphorus levels, but neither will the top. The old rule of up (nitrogen), down (phosphorus), and all around (potassium) came about due to simple observation. Nitrogen visibly set off top growth. Potassium set off some, but not a vast amount. Phosphorus didn't cause top growth...so therefore it must be making the roots grow, right? Well, no. Wrong. If there were already adequate levels of phosphorus in the soil, it was a waste (the same is true of nitrogen and potassium, for that matter). There's a secondary explanation about luxury consumption, but we'll skip it for now, and it's not that important here anyway. Phosphorus is also very, very slow to work into the soil, so adding it in fall doesn't do much good that fall. The following year, sure. But adding it the fall before means that any erosion of soil will take that phosphorus with it--and that's not good for surrounding waterways. It's minor, but since it would be a frequently occurring problem, we do try to limit it. So there's two reasons. It doesn't actually do much good when you add it, and you may or may not need the stuff to begin with. Really, a Logan Labs soil test will tell you everything about your soil resources. Some soils are very short on phosphorus. Most that I see tend to be somewhat low to adequate (within workable range but should be corrected to just fine). Some are through the roof. Phosphorus isn't a resource I recommend adding without a soil test under most circumstances (there's a one time exception when doing a full lawn renovation, but that's about it)....See MoreKind of odd time of year for a scape?
Comments (52)Look what I just found!!! It appears to be a conjoined flower of Giraffe, too bad it didn't make it up a few more inches, it might have been beautiful!! But, then again, maybe it was just two flowers that bloomed simultaneously, hard to tell as they're all squished together. This is in a pot of golf ball sized offsets that I potted up last year after the mother bulb faded away, so it's not a very large bulb. I have Giraffes twice this that don't want to bloom!! Donna...See MoreLaura LaRosa (7b)
5 years agoHeruga (7a Northern NJ)
5 years agoMeyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoLaura LaRosa (7b)
5 years agoHeruga (7a Northern NJ)
5 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
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