Can I install cabinets and counters over plywood subfloor?
Eli Mo
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Comments (0)I have a 3/4" maple floor over a 3/4" plywood subfloor on the second story of my Chicago home. I would very much like to install a solid granite hearthstone in front of my gas-ignited woodburning 36" fireplace and have it be flush with the floor, but I'm having difficulty thinking of a way to do so that wont have major risk of the granite cracking. I plan to defintiely use Ditra to uncouple the expansion of the floor from the expansion of the hearth stone. However, I can only use 2cm, not 3cm in this space, and I can't fit any Hardiebacker / Durock / etc. nor any mortar depth without pushing the 2cm stone above the surface of the floor. I'm assuming it would be a very bad idea to cut out the subfloor and try to attach a piece of supporting wood beneath it, since then I'd have granite hanging by screws. There's not much general foot traffic on the hearth, but there is a cabinet above it, and sometimes I stand on it when moving fireplace logs, so I don't think I can assume no one will walk on it. The dimensions of the stone will be about 55" wide by 16" deep. The firebox opening is a little over 8" up from the floor. Do others think I can get away with installing just Ditra and thinset and 2cm granite directly over plywood? Also, if I use Ditra, does anyone know how much thickness that will take up? And what is the thinnest layer of thinset I can get away with to bed the Ditra and the granite? Also, is there a particular type of thinset / mortar that would be best for this? Thanks!...See Moreinstall hardwood floor over old plan subfloor
Comments (3)You can install directly over the subfloor. It must be reasonably flat and secured well to eliminate squeaks and looseness. If you want to install a plywood layer, 3/8" minimum thickness. Reasearch vapor retarders and decide if that is appropriate for you. Note that asphalt impregnated retarders, such as roofing felt, can lead to momentary snapping noises sometimes...the wood sticks to the underside of the flooring and then releases resulting in the snapping noise. To avoid that use a slip sheet of kraft paper or choose a vapor retarder that has a kraft paper face....See MoreVapor barrier over plywood subfloor?
Comments (2)Tough question. I am familiar with what the North Florida environment can do to most anything made of wood, so you are right to be concerned. Moisture passing through a material that then condenses on a barrier is where there could be a problem. Since the crawlspace is unconditioned, then I would assume that you at least have some means for air exchange or venting and that the ground is covered with a moisture barrier. Very interesting question. Have you consulted with the flooring manufacturer directly about this?...See MoreInstalling cabinets over a different subfloor
Comments (4)The one thing I wouldn't do is your (1) above, because that could be a very costly mistake. The worst scenario would be to install wood floor under your cabinets, then to have them warp requiring you to take them out after the cabinets are installed. I went through this issue with wood floors vs. cabinets recently. You will have very strong proponents arguing both sides. I decided to lay floors down first, but then had the same problem with the wood not arriving on time to properly acclimate. I decided to switch to install the cabinets first. As long as your cabinet maker or GC is happy to install the cabinets over subfloor, there really shouldn't be any issue. They will probably prefer it. If there is no cost or other issue with delaying cabinet installation, then you're fine either way. I'd say it's personal preference and don't get too caught up in trying to find the "right" answer around installing cabinets vs floors first....See Morerantontoo
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