Installing Paver Drainage
Alexandra Rains
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Pavers vs Stamped Concrete Drainage
Comments (2)"With stamped concrete all water drains off the patio, no water penetrates the ground beneath the patio, and the home foundation stays dry." Concrete is porous. Concrete cracks as it cures. Plenty of water penetrates, just the same as pavers. Think about installing a french drain along the perimeter wall underneath the new patio. That will take care of the seeping water. Sloping and drainage are very important, but you already know that. Make sure the new patio is at least a few inches lower than the slab inside the house. You still may need to waterproof the slab for the hardwood floors. I think tile would be more fool-proof. (not to suggest you're dealing with foolery!)...See MoreMaterials for Concrete and Paver Drainage Layers
Comments (7)Okay, here is a specific proposal as an alternative to Class 2 Base Rock, with the application being a paver base rock layer. Combine 3/8 inch pea gravel together with coarse fill sand. It is yet to be determined what percentage of each the mix should have. I am hoping that this would give good compaction with a tamper tool, and would be easy to move around to get it to level. 3/8 inch rock is going to be much easier to move than 3/4 inch rock. One thing I notice is that the pea gravel below has rounded corners. True crushed granite has sharp edges. Does it matter for compacted base layers? One open question is whether a compaction layer really needs a lot of microscope powdery fines of the type you see in Class 2 Base Rock. I do see how that powder gets the base very stable when it is compressed. But it also slows down the drainage. At this point, I am just hoping to solicit feedback from people with experience. Pea gravel photo here: Fill sand photo here:...See MoreDrainage for raised paver patio
Comments (11)No idea the water source based on photos. A paver patio is built on granular material that drains quite well. so there is no need for a drain under it. Even if the material under it becomes saturated, the patio surface will still shed water, and eventually the saturated material will still drain. The rocks around the edge I would not call a retaining "wall." They act more as a curb. But since the curb is comprised only of individual rocks separated by soil, it, in itself, is not capable of preventing water from draining away. Nor should it be. The existence of the patio & curb seems separate from the problem of an unknown source of water infiltrating an area. (Other than that they could complicate the diagnosis and repair.) But it is enough water to look like a leak ... unless you happen to have a very high water table. If you do and there has been a lot of rain in days prior, that could cause such a condition....See MoreYard Drainage question/DIY drainage installation
Comments (3)Do you know why it's collecting there in the first place? Do you know what the development/county/city plan is for the surface drainage of your property and the surrounding property? If so, you should drain to there. As for calculating gravel needs for a french drain, it's pretty much length * depth * width, minus the volume of the drainage pipe. Your edges aren't going to be perfect, so add in some extra for that. However, a french drain may not be the right solution, and even if it is, you'll still need a way to keep silt and debris from building up inside it and/or a way to clean it out. Drainage is complicated, and I would recommend either a ton of reading or consulting a professional if you want it done right. This is one of the best comprehensive writeups that covers drainage. Don't be put off by the fact that it says it's written for golf courses. Drainage Systems for Golf Courses Dr. Ed McCoy Ohio State University...See MoreAlexandra Rains
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