I have, thanks! I'm looking for folks who have owned both Iceberg and Claire Austin for comparison of them specifically. Thanks, Smithdale!

Does scent matter to you? Iceberg has a light scent which to me is sometimes not detectable.

Where do you live again? Iceberg was not reliably Hardy in Northern Kentucky.

I had Iceberg and it was BS prone and died completely over a not really bad winter. I replaced it with Cloud10 from Radler but the foliage is very thin and it only really blooms once for me. So I did my research and ordered Claire Austin as my next white rose. The reviews are great from the University of Georgia DA trials. It is very disease resistant and tolerates shade. Hoping it lives up to it's reputation.

I think Iceberg does really well in California, less well in the East. It does pretty well here.

Ikaye, for how long have you grown Cloud10? Did you get any BS on it? I'm willing to wait a few years with a climber if it's good on BS.

vaporvac - I've had 2 Cloud10s. The first one was so wimpy with tiny little flowers and never climbed. The second one started out the same but I fertilized it more and since it never stopped raining last year it seemed to like that better and actually put out several 5' canes. It does not BS at all! The flowers hang on a long time but they will get dirty looking with tons of rain. But it has very little foliage and I cannot detect any fragrance. I put it inside an obelisk and I think I should have wound the stems around the outside and it might look better. At the time I was thinking deer protection since they were roaming the gardens all night but they reached right in and helped themselves.

I have that problem too in addition to midge, although hoping to finally have both under control this year. I also thought some roses hardly bloomed until I discovered why. I may try these two rose in the future so please continue to update. Thank you for the reply.

Think I'm leaning towards Claire Austin. I searched Cloud 10 which is beautiful, but won't work in my shaded garden. Apart from white climbers I also like The Pilgrim. Maybe I'll plant them together :) Will post pictures to this thread later in the season.

I take it you already considered some of the hybrid musk's?

Where you are matters greatly.

What part of the country are you? As mentioned upthread, Iceberg is fantastic is dry sunny California, but rather miserable and fleeting in the hot and humid south.

My pic for best little white is Bolero hands down. Disease resistant, profuse, long lasting, very fragrant and easy care

I'm in Charlotte NC, Zone 7b, and the climbing rose I choose will be planted in a large container against my home with a vertical trellis behind it, south facing.

That helps. That might not be Iceberg's best area.

Are either of the roses really climbers? I didn't realize Iceburg was--HMF lists it as a floribunda. Clair Austin is marketed by David Austin as a "short climber," but it's listed on HMF as a "shrub." There are almost no pictures of it online as a climber--other than the marketing ones Austin is using...

There is a Cl. Iceberg, so I'm presuming that's what we're talking about. I can't comment on CA, but I'm growing a couple of Austins such as Falstaff and Tess which do take on a climbing habit if trained to do so. However, mine are growing horizontally so I'm not sure how tall they would get. I