MGGS vs 511! 8 month update!
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Comments (9)I didn't ask about the lime out of curiosity about pH issues, AK. I'm not surprised that the top showed a little more growth in the ProMix after learning there is no source of either Ca or Mg when using MG fertilizer in a soil that wasn't limed. It is surprising though, that the root mass of the plants in the 5:1:1 mix was greater than those in the ProMix. even in spite of the fact that the only source of either Ca or Mg was the medium components, which we would consider to me nil, practically speaking. Al...See MoreDeficiencies in 5-1-1 or season?
Comments (13)Have you checked the pH of your water after adding the vinegar? I have hard water w/ a heavy bicarbonate load and have to add at least 1/4 cup per gallon to get the pH under 6. Others get by with a tablespoon, which is what I used to do until I actually tested my water and found out that wasn't nearly enough. Also, is the chlorosis on the rabbiteyes primarily on new growth or are all of the leaves showing the symptoms? In the heat of summer (when temps are about 90 F), I occasionally see some chlorosis on new growth. Nonetheless, the plants usually work through that on their own and the symptoms abate once the weather cools down a bit. I know that you said that you were entering autumn and temps were quite cool, but I thought I'd mention it nonetheless. I've included a link (below) to an Oregon State University newsletter that harvestman quoted in the Fruit forum thread that I mentioned above. Here are two excerpts that are especially intriguing: Ammonium-nitrogen vs. nitrate-nitrogen. Many studies have been conducted regarding which form of nitrogen blueberries prefer. Studies in hydroponics and sand (I would call this semi-hydroponics) growing systems, blueberry plants do take up both ammonium-nitrogen and nitrate-nitrogen. However, in mineral soil production systems (like in Oregon), blueberry plants that received nitrate-nitrogen performed poorly compared to those fertilized with ammonium-nitrogen. More recent studies found that blueberry plants have limited nitrate reductase activities, meaning the assimilation of nitrate in blueberry plants could be limited. Therefore, blueberry plants prefer the ammonium (NH4) form of nitrogen. and... The use of urea. When urea is applied in the soil, it will first break down to ammonium and carbonate by urease. This process takes one hydrogen ion away from the soil. Then ammonium may form ammonia (NH3), so soil pH close to the urea particles could increase markedly. Although such a pH increase may be temporary, it could induce iron chlorosis in blueberries. Because of the eventual uptake of ammonium by blueberry plants, the long-term effect of urea on soil pH will still be a reduction in soil pH. Since the fertilizer that you've been using doesn't include urea, the latter excerpt doesn't really apply. Nonetheless, it's interesting in that MG is urea-heavy. One last suggestion -- you might want to try cross-posting this in the Fruit forum. Al offered good advice which could very well solve your problem, but there are a number of frequent posters over there who have a lot of experience with blueberries, which increases the odds that you'll catch the attention of someone who's seen a similar pattern in rabbiteyes, etc. Here is a link that might be useful: Oregon Blueberry Newsletter This post was edited by shazaam on Mon, Apr 8, 13 at 13:44...See MoreAll Natural vs Synthetic Comparison: Update Jun 8 2011
Comments (1)I love to see work like this. ---DC in L.A....See Moregritty mix vs 511 clarification...
Comments (4)The 5-1-1 is a better mix for your houseplants. You want that soil to be a bit more moisture retentive. I would reserve any gritty mix for the succulents, lavender and the sequoia. The Thrifty Sorb is fine. And you do not need to be precise about screening. I seldom bother and I've been doing this for years. I also don't bother to wait before using the mix......it really doesn't make any difference....See MoreJan
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