Roses need to go dormant. Here’s how you can help the process
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How can you tell when a plant is dormant?
Comments (12)Plants have a lot of mechanisms for determining if they should grow (actually it's the factor that restricts growth that relaxes at these times, but that's not a useful distinction for growers, generally). I think the big three factors are, in no particular order: 1) Light levels (including length of day--they can sort of 'know' in this way which hemisphere they're in, among other things) 2) Temperature (in fact, many plants have a sort of chemical clock and 'know' how long it's been since it was a certain temperature--useful for coming out of winter dormancy at a safe time) 3) Moisture levels (this is an obvious one and the one we can most readily control as growers) The specific climate, via some combination of the above, generally determines which conditions and timings are favorable to growth. Usually it's the rainy season, unless the rainy season is close to winter in a temperate area or the like (in Seattle the summers do get fairly dry in Jul-Aug, so I think most growth happens in spring, then again in fall, except for deciduous trees and the like, which are busy readying for winter). There are almost certainly exceptions to this, though. Based on some quick searching, BTW, it looks like the Baobab is no exception--it'll grow when it's warm (as it grows during warm, wet seasons in its native areas, at least A. digitata in Africa and Arabia). With water provided by the grower though, it'd probably come out of dormancy in spring/summer in temperate zones. Maybe that's where that idea came from. I don't know if any plants do have a memory of their native seasons, but it strikes me as possible, if a bit unlikely (seems like pointless information, but maybe there's some case where it'd be useful). Even seedlings can do some pretty complex timing operations--for germination it's probably the most critical that they get things right--but this mostly does hinge on ambient conditions, in all of the cases I'm familiar with. The mechanisms for this are basically all about chemical levels and genes being activated or inactivated by environmental conditions or other genetic processes--specifics are only fairly recently forthcoming, but anyone who's done cold stratification or something similar is accounting for these processes. Not sure I can offer advice, other than what's been stated. Softening succulents are either rotting or in need of water--usually it's trivial to tell the difference. Attempted growth is my usual measure, except that I have plants that are either predictable or opportunistic. I lay off the water unless I think I can convince the plant it's the growing season by watering--which of course depends on the proclivity for cool or warm season growth....See MoreHow to dormant mini roses in zone 2b Saskatchewan
Comments (2)Hi Seil! Thanks so much for the reply. I have been growing them under metal hallides, I thinking 400 Watt's. I am not sure as my bf got them from when he built the target store here. They are big and you can see the light they emit all the way down the block. I can't even look at them without being blinded LOL. But boy do they do the trick for alot of my plants. I got my oleander next to the and plan to grow some orchids under them. We made sure the foot candles was far enough away to ensure no scortching of leaves and blooms. I have run these things for about 4 months now and all sorts of things are sprouting up, even my foxtail fern, that i had no idea flowers, formed little white buds. I am on the look out now for a fridge on kijiji but so far no luck. I do want to dormant them, and let them rest but I supposed just to keep them going as you said would be better for them so that they don't struggle. Thanks for the advice!...See MoreHelp with Dormant bare root rose
Comments (17)Ethan, I hope you don't mind me tagging on to your thread since starting a new one would be repetitive. I planted bare roots just a few of weeks ago -- I had rose fever from cooping up in a hospital for three months and wanted to take the risk. In addition to being very late for planting bare roots, we skyrocketed into a heat wave when the bare roots arrived, so they were planted when temps were mid 90s. We planted early evening, kept the soil mushy, and shaded the bare roots. Every one of them is leafing out. The ones planted in natural shade are bushiest. Some of the roses shaded with artificial barriers are getting lanky. From the advice in this thread, it sounds as if I shouldn't have been shading them at all -- is that right? Should I now start hardening them off slowly, or . . . ? We had a one week cold snap, but temps are up again -- high of 97F today. Thanks for any advice....See MoreCan roses be dormant in summer?
Comments (15)They look fine. Good for you! Measure your water. They need around 1" of rain per week or 4 gallons of irrigation in your climate--5 gallons during the hottest week of July.. Give the water ration once a week for established plants or 1/2 of it twice a week for new plants. You should remove the grass over a square yard and put down 2"-3" of mulch. Shredded hardwood bark is abundant in our area. "Star Rose" is the producer company and not, I think, a variety. 'Angel Face' has blackspot disease and will probably defoliate unless it is sprayed preventatively with fungicide. They will all get it, but AF (charming though it is) is one of the worst. You are in an area with high disease pressure. Posters here can recommend varieties that are usually resistant. Most people growing the kind of roses you have, and in an eastern climate, spray fungicide regularly. If you are comfortable using synthetic chemicals, I recommend Bayer Disease Control for Roses, Flowers, and Shrubs applied with a tank sprayer every 2-4 weeks. Some Lowe's have it, or look online. Do not get any of the Bayer combo products ("All In One" etc)....See MoreKaren R. (9B SF Bay Area)
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