Burman coffee roaster Freshroast SR500 + green coffee types
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What happened to the taste of Coffee?
Comments (32)The point being made in our comments above is that there is no "good coffee" anywhere, no matter how hard you "work for it" It used to be that you could get decent coffee with aroma and flavour at the supermarket. You can't now, nor can you get it from exotic specialty importers/roasters. They boast about their sourcing small batch coffee from family growers in exotic locations throughout the coffee growing world and display photos on their websites and cafe walls to show this. The facts are their coffee tastes and smells just as bad as cheapo stale beans from the supermarket. There is NO coffee aroma or flavour. It's just a harsh brown drink! They rave about "black current/citrus/mushroom flavours, they have to, there is no coffee flavour at all. As noted above, coffee leaf rust has decimated coffee trees worldwide and growers have rushed to plant Arabica/Robusta hybrid trees to compensate. Also the move to dwarf trees to enable machine harvesting has lead to production cost reductions but means ripe and unripe cherries are harvested together whereas hand harvesting allowed for only ripe cherries to be harvested each pick. We used to buy and roast green beans sourced from small growers in Cuba through an independent specialty coffee importer in NZ (roasted beans were also available) They were astounding, filling the house with freshly ground coffee aroma and the taste was divine. After several years the flavour and taste disappeared. Asking the importer why, they couldn't give a straight answer but just that those beans were no longer available, try something else... Now, all their "small batch "specialty" coffees taste equally dreadful. Our take: hybrid Robusta/Arabica re plantings world wide have eliminated the Arabica coffee trees that produced the fabulous coffee of 30-40- years ago. These hybrid trees may be coffee rust resistant but in our opinion impart a hard, harsh Robusta flavour to coffee produced worldwide today. "The King has no clothes!"...See MoreGraduating from corn popper coffee roaster to Gene Cafe? Behmor?
Comments (4)I have been roasting with a GeneCafe for a few years. Mine has been a good roaster. Not as good now that the company sold out and the new owner does not allow do-it yourself fixes of minor problems. As I have heard you have to ship the whole thing back to have them fix it. The tech person at the original firm was glad to help with problems and let you fix it yourself. Nonetheless, once I learned the art of using it I get really good results. It is not automatic and there are "profiles" that you must learn to do. Here is an example: Weigh 227 grams (1/2 pound) of beans. Turn on the roaster and set to 5 minutes at 350* to preheat. Do an emergiency stop. Dump in the beans and put the cylinder back on the roaster as fast as you can so you don't burn out the heating element. Set the time to 17 minutes and the temperature to 473*. Restart the roaster. After about 10 minues listen carefully to hear the first pop of the beans cracking (first crack). Continue roasting for about 1.5 minutes and then cut the temperature to 462*. Continue roasting until the desired color is achieved or at most 2 more minutes. Do an emergiency stop and dump the beans into a fast cooler such as a colander over a vacuum to suck the heat out of the beans as fast as you can. Store the beans open to the air for 1 day, then close the container and store for 2-7 days depending on the bean. Grind and brew. If you want to get into this hobby, I suggest you join one of the online coffee roasting clubs. There you will find fellow roasters asking and commenting about the machine you are using. I belong to several, but mostly go to "greencoffeebuyingclub.com". There are pros there that search for great buys on green beans and distribute them to fellow members at a fair price. Hope this helps....See MoreStoring Coffee?
Comments (20)Tastes differ, that's for sure. For those happy with canned coffee, or who purchase coffee in large quantities that are then "around the house" for any period of time, doing anything other than what you normally do probably wouldn't matter to you. It does matter to me. Coffee is a food product, its volatile flavor and aroma components degrade over time. How much time? The local coffee roaster where I buy my stuff says 10 days is the maximum shelf life. With even more time, to add insult to injury, the oils can become rancid and then it really has an off flavor. Before then, it's just losing its normal flavor and aroma. I buy a week's worth at a time. What I (or you) keep it in doesn't matter, unless you put it into a container that you fill with something like nitrogen to prevent oxidation. The biggest villain to be concerned with is time, not anything else. An airtight lid doesn't add any value because there's already air in the container. A refrigerator or freezer may slow down the oil turning but it's not going to do much to help freshness....See MoreWarning: This is a coffee saga...
Comments (66)>>The headline on the company history page says "It All Began on Vine Street", at the corner of Walnut in Berkeley.>> The first Peet's store was opened in Berkeley. But he sold his beans through a few other shops before opening the Peet's-only stores. I remember being very sad that his store opened in Berkeley instead of being in SF where I could reach it (didn't drive and no car in those days). Even Herb Caen mentioned it, I believe; the Peet's French was highly coveted stuff. We were all hoping his first store would be in SF.....sigh. Aliceinmd, interesting that your recipe uses salt. I used to work in a big hotel in Chicago way back when, and one of the waiters was known for making the best coffee of anyone. I watched him one day and he salted the coffee grounds before turning on the big urn percolator. Much later when "food science" started to become popular, I read that salt offsets bitterness and thought, "Aha, that's why he did that!" Intriguingly enough, according to several articles (NYTimes, Serious Eats) they still don't know quite how salt works to offset bitterness (whether the salt somehow disrupts the bitter receptors on the tongue or whether itâÂÂs some sort of post-processing by the brain)! This post was edited by jkom51 on Mon, Jan 12, 15 at 18:49...See More- 7 years agoLars thanked dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
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