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Can I move a rose to the ground now?

5 years ago

I am in Chicago area (5b). Due to poor planning, I still have 7 roses in 5-gallon pots along with some other plants such as potted Japanese maple, potted fig, that won’t survive the winter outside, but I don’t think I can find enough space in my already crowded 2 car garage. If I just take the entire rootball out from the 5gallon pot and plant in the ground with good mulching, will they survive the winter ok? Anyone have experience with this?

claire

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Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA

5 years ago

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I would crowd them all into the garage, just to be on the safe side. It won't hurt them a bit being jammed in together. There's no growth going on, no light needed. They will insulate each other better. Better to be safe than sorry. You don't know what kind of 2018-19 winter you will have. If the roses have pretty much filled a 5 gal. pot those are nice sized roses worth $$$. Losing them or having considerable dieback......think of the time lost and money wasted, nothing gained, but a potential big loss.

Moses

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Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
5 years ago
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I did this last year about this time and all mine made it, but I am in Z6b. We experienced - 7 F last year for extended nights and a lot of freeze-thaw after that.
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Claire Z5 IL
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5 years ago
Thank you for sharing your experience! Hope this weekend will be sunny and warm so that I can do some digging.
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ratdogheads z5b NH
5 years ago
Yes now is a good time. Unless I'm putting the rose in its permanent spot, I dig a hole a little deeper than the pot and plant the rose in the pot (assuming its in a plastic pot). Less disturbance of the root ball now and again in the spring. It's better to cover with a mound of soil than mulch.. Mulch invites critters and if you have wet winters it can lead to canker.

Happy digging!
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Claire Z5 IL thanked ratdogheads z5b NH
Claire Z5 IL
Original Author
5 years ago
You have a good point, Moses. I would hate to lose any of them. But my garage is really full....maybe I will plant a few in the ground is the weekend weather is nic, and squeeze the rest in garage.

Claire
ratdogheads z5b NH
5 years ago
Is your garage heated? I don't have a garage, and I've lost every rose I've tried to overwinter in my unheated barn.

The roses are probably not dormant yet. Transplanting roses when dormant is a common practice in cold zones, but by then of course the digging may be difficult. Could you dig the holes now and put the roses in the holes late Nov/early Dec?
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Claire Z5 IL thanked ratdogheads z5b NH
Claire Z5 IL
Original Author
5 years ago
My garage is attached but not heated. I have overwintered roses as well as other plants successfully by putting the pots close to the inside wall without additional protection, and they actually wake up and bloom earlier than their outdoor counterparts, so I believe the garage provides a micro environment that is zone 6 or higher. I have also heard that non-attached non-heated shed is no more than a wind breaker and won’t protect the plants much at all.

I didn’t know transplanting dormant roses is common. I will definiteLu experiment with this using my least favorite ones first :)
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ratdogheads z5b NH
5 years ago
I should have said planting arther than transplanting. I was referring to the practice of planting dormant bare roots in early winter as opposed to early spring. I guess that's we're all transplanting with roses when you think about it. But in any case, I've also had good luck with transplanting at this time of year, which was based on advice I've received from this forum in the past.
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