Thanks so much for your thoughts. We are a family of 4 with 2 teen boys who are eating all the time!! I love to cook and we entertain often. We utilize our outside grill and stovetop a good bit, and I am not a big broiler user. Until this remodel I have survived on a 36" range. Holiday cooking was always a bit challenging so I knew I wanted 2 ovens and at least one of them a steam oven. My dilemma is storage and space constraints. If I stick with the smaller 18" CSO and the 24" convection I have to find space in my pantry for a microwave...even the smallest ones take up a good bit of space. I just started thinking If I will use and enjoy the CSO as much as everyone seems to then maybe a smaller speed oven and larger CSO would suffice. I think for day to day cooking we would be fine, but I am concerned about holiday cooking. I am headed to go look at these options in person and get a feel for the capacity. Hmm decisions decisions. Thanks so much.

At my local Miele Experience center, they always brag how they cook their Thanksgiving turkey in the CSO. So, it's definitely possible. But I'm not sure what the maximum size is, and whether they had to spatchcock the bird.

Sounds at if you'd be fine for day to day use. But when entertaining, you might (or might not!) occasionally encounter restrictions. With the outside grill, you already have a great additional place to cook.

So, it's possible you won't need more, and if you do need more, then some form of cheap countertop appliance that you take out of storage twice a year could very well do the job.

It's all a question of trade-offs. How much space/money do you want to invest? And to what extent are you willing to improvise a little bit those few times when you host a really big party.

The upside with a steam oven is that you can frequently cook multiple different dishes in it at the same time. And you can pack much more tightly. With a bit of planning, that should allow you to get away with much less oven space.

I have a 30” Miele convection oven/XL CSO/Speed Oven. The Speed oven was a splurge as I am not a big microwave person and thought the Speed Oven would be useful as 2nd small or 3rd oven. I have not regretted spending the extra $$$ for the speed oven over a built in microwave as I use it mainly as a second small oven or a 3rd oven when I need all three. The XXL CSO was not available when we were building but if I had to do it again I would get the extra height as you could more easily bake on two racks simultaneously and it would likely accommodate a larger turkey. I had to live without my 30” oven for 5 months this year (another long story). For my husband and myself it was fine. One downside of the MIele CSO/Speed oven is the ability to keep it clean. Neither are self clean and the perfect clean is not as easy to clean as Miele claims. I do not cook messy foods such as roasted meats in either oven (we grill outside most of our meats/poultry/pork/fish) or I use my 30” oven. Other than the cleaning - I would see if the width is limiting for you. I can get a jelly roll pan, 9X13 pans, and quarter sheet pans in the CSO/Speed oven with appropriate side clearance. Neither my half sheet nor my Williams Sonoma cookie sheets fit. I suggest taking some of you favorite large baking pans to a Miele dealer and see if they fit in the CSO/Speed oven if you want to go that route. I have not found the broiler power a concern and like you I am not a big broiler user. I usually only broil peppers/tomatoes etc or use it as a top brown. The CSO is my favorite oven and definitely needs to find a home in your kitchen.

The Miele sales person demonstrated fitting a half sheet into the CSO. So, I think it's a tight fit, but it mostly comes down to buying the correct brand of cookie sheet.

Agree on the cookie sheets. The half sheet “barely“ fits on the runners - no side air circulation FWIW.

I would think long and hard about not having a "standard" size oven anywhere in the kitchen (wall or range). While you may not be thinking far out, not having an expected appliance in the kitchen will make resale a much greater challenge when the time comes.

Thank you all so much for your thoughts and feedback! This is so helpful! I visited an Miele store and it was helpful to see the capacity in person! Funny thing is I realized I have been living in this apartment so long I had forgotten that my previous range was only a 30" instead of a 36" HA! I am concerned about all my nice W&S pans etc. not fitting. I also feel like the ease of just popping a pan in vs layering things will require a bit of a learning curve...in addition to the whole steam cooking curve! Thank goodness for youtube! I think we are pretty set on the 24" width ovens because If I expand to 30" I would lose too much pantry space. I do keep hearing about the cleaning aspect and that is a bit concerning as I am a bit of a neat freak:). Thank you all for the thoughts and feedback it has been very helpful!! I really appreciate it.