Need Help with Kitchen Lighting (Track vs Recessed) and Design
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Comments (4)Thanks for your comments. I think we will end up using a floor lamp made for pianos as DH doesn't like the ones that clip on and I don't like the ones that sit counterbalanced to the side of the pianist. Is it cheaper/easier to install recessed cans or wall sconces? The piano niche seems like it will be a little dark compared to the rest of the room and I would like to find a way to light up that corner. I think I will stay away from the lights that "hang down" as it is one less fixture that will have to coordinate with the fan and the pendants over the kitchen island....See MoreI need help lighting kitchen with recessed lights please.
Comments (2)Your contractor's layout is preferable, though moving the lights closer to the counter tops would be fine - between 24" - 30". If you use lights like the Cree CR4 or CR6, there will be sufficient spillover to augment the light from the pendants over the island in the center of the room. If the pendants provide insufficient light, they can be swapped out/ higher output led lamps may be used. Rationale The counter tops will be better lit with UCL than cans. Even if you do have the ability to put can lights over the counter tops, the distance to the counter top reduces the amount of incident light. There should be sufficient distance from the crown molding around the upper cabinets to the cans so that the trim can be fit and look properly spaced. A more regular pattern is preferable as it isn't like a random pattern of holes in cheese. Eyeball cans are more troublesome in the long run. The final location of the cans will be determined by the layout of the ceiling joists as well as obstructions above the ceiling board. There has been ample discussion on the DIY led recessed lighting guide for kitchens thread on this topic...See MoreRecessed lighting in kitchen on cathedral ceiling - Gimbals vs.regular
Comments (13)Judmen - Recessed on sloped ceilings requires a bit more work to select the correct recessed light (ceiling pitch, lumens and beam spread are some factors). Based on the hanging fixture in your picture it looks like something like this was purchased and installed from Home Depot: As wdccruise pointed out, these are designed for flat ceilings. When installed on a sloped ceiling you run into problems because the light doesn't shine down. A gimbal would allow you to do that, but there are better options. Here's a link where you can learn a bit more about recessed lighting for sloped ceilings. This is for info only, I don't think this company's solution will work for you, BUT there are LED can and canless solutions that would. http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/lighting/resources/LightingStories/The-Allslope-LED.html Aside from gimbal trims, better designed solutions are probably not stocked in your local Home Center. They can also get pricey....See MoreNeed help on recessed lighting placement in kitchen!
Comments (21)This is what a lighting designer (at a lighting specific store) told me: 1) go to the lighting manufacturer's website and pull up the specs for you specific ceiling lights (can, wafers, discs, whatever). The info there will tell you what circumference of light the can will produce at your specific ceiling height to the surface you what to illuminate ie counter. You want to place the cans far enough apart that they just overlap that circle of light. So, mine (6" discs" are placed 48" apart; the first one from the side wall is 22". (This would also be true for spaces like your bay). This also tells you how many cans you need for a given area. 2) Tweak that positioning to be sure that open cabinets doors do not block the light from illuminating the inside of the cabinet. - usually just an inch or 3 of a shift. 3) Center the cans meant to light work surfaces over the edge of the counter (so, definitely NOT 36", which will place the light behind anyone working at the counter, and so cast a shadow onto the work surface.) This position will light cabinet interiors just fine. 4) Can placement does NOT have to be symmetrical in fact should not be if that compromises the most effective placement. Even more so than with cabinets, no one notices symmetry or asymmetry once everything is all in and in use. This may sound like a big effort, but it really wasn't. I knew the brand and style of the lights I would use (had to use, because of ductwork in the ceiling) which made is pretty easy to track down the specs. After that, it is just measuring and tweaking. I really don't get the "6" is outdated". This is a functional issue, not a style issue. Narrow beam track lights may be outdated, but that is because they are much more noticeable and noticed. Ceiling cans are not. EDITED TO ADD: if you island is going to be used as a work surface, I don't think that I would rely on centered pendants alone. That puts the light in front of the person working there, which can produce issues with glare off the counter and in the eyes. Put two cans over the counter edge on at least the working side of the island. That will help to light the area on the left of the island, also....See MoreRelated Professionals
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