My large-leaf recommendation is Lakeside San Kao, looks like nothing else... starts lime, turns near-white with green veining. See the photolinks I left on another thread here (three in one note, one in another).

Moccasinlanding thank you for the warm welcome. A tribute to the Queen is indeed merited. I would definitely have to agree with you. Like I said in my original post I knew once I saw these three that they were special. There are a few other cultivars of hosta in the garden as well but nothing like these Elegans. (speaking of which I shall have to put Steve to the challenge again identifying the other mystery hosta in this jungle of mine). Ken won't ID if you don't link pics directly � lazy bum :p j/k Let me clarify though, so as to maybe better offer me advice. We live about 11 miles north of Philadelphia in the burbs. This garden is old and overgrown. There are a whole slew of perennials (mostly ferns and hellebore) from the original landscaping design. But like I said there is nothing to look at except overgrown bushes and self-chocking iris. So when I broke ground and started clearing out the first perennial bed about a month ago I hit clay. Real bad nasty compiled clay that I would rather throw on a wheel and spin into a lovely container than garden with. So my goal as I go through these perennial beds is to amend the soil. Slowly in the process moving all the established perennials to rejuvenate them with proper spacing and a more cohesive design (I'm going for woodland floor since the sycamores are dominating all the light in the yard). With my Elegans I was not intending to move them from their current locations but rather dig them up, amend the soil underneath, and then replace them divided and refreshed. I have read and seen when a mature plant gets to big it starts to suffer and I don't know how long total beyond 8 years these have been in the ground. Am I in the wrong to touch them in any way ? I feel like they would only benefit from a soil amending. I would not dig them up every year, but rather amend around them in the years to follow. Should I leave them be and wait until I see more signs showing me it is time to divide ? Thanks as always ^^ You guys are great. Ludi

Thank You Forgot to add that when I bought them they were at our local grocery store, so I don't think they are anything specialty. I thought Halcyon too. Patriot sounds familiar. Can't figure the last one. Hope someone can. Can't believe how much they grew in three years. The benefits of mushroom compost I guess.

pam.. next time.. a scale would help ... anything we might all recognize ... the june fever i have been torturing for a long time.. does not have that wide of a dark green edge ...compare in the library ... ken