HVAC Maintenance and AC condenser inspection
Brooke Lacey
5 years ago
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Need new A/C, Looking at an entire HVAC package
Comments (5)"- Is it true that A/C and Furnace should be replaced together?" --> When they are both over 20 years old (or even 15), it sure does make a lot of sense. It will likely be cheaper now, and you'll have a new matched system with a new warranty. Tax credit situation depends on what A/C was quoted. A 95% efficient furnace is needed to get the tax credit, unless the A/C is 16 SEER/13 EER. "At least one company will not install a new furnace in the attic" --> Condensing (90+% efficient furnaces) are generally not recommended or installed in attics due to freezing issues in the winter. In that case, you'd need to turn to the A/C side of the system to get the tax credit. What size system are you replacing here (tonnage, btus)? I'm sure Tigerdunes will be along and he has a list of features he recommends to posters. I would want a variable speed furnace fan, a system eligible for the tax credit, a GOOD installer, ductwork examined, proper procedures followed. I know you asked for key features in a new furnace, but the truth is most brands are similar in terms of "reliability" and features today, and it is highly important to choose the best company to do the work. That's the key to success in any new system. York, Trane, Lennox, Carrier, Rheem....all make higher and lower end products. Model numbers will help you evaluate further. Prices seem steep but we don't know all that's included. For instance, maybe you're getting some ductwork modification. PVC venting adds to the cost for high-efficiency furnaces. And, you live in New Jersey, and from what I've seen prices aren't low around there for HVAC....See MoreGet new HVAC or repair A/C? Which brand?
Comments (8)Which do you all recommend? Still trying to decide on my 2nd floor system located in the attic. 10 year old A/C + furnace. A/C 2.5 ton/10 SEER is out, but furnace 80 AFUE works fine. Keep current Carrier Furnace, replace nonfunctional A/C with new Carrier Comfort series heat pump 3 ton/13 SEER. for $3500.00 or replace whole system with Carrier performance heat pump (25HPA5) 3 ton/15 SEER/8.5 HSPF and Furnace (58CTA)80 AFUE which after tax and manufacturer rebate will be about $4500.00 I'm leaning towrds the 2nd option myself. Thanks...See MoreHVAC Quote for 2 Family Home
Comments (6)First off, I think you must ask dealer what upgrades you need to make to your attic where dealer will guarantee against freeze ups. That's if you are serious about placing a high eff condensing furnace in attic. Then get pricing from an insulation contractor and/or dealer if he provides that type of work. Weigh the cost of the upgrade and decide if it's worth it. I think quote #1 is ridiculously high. Good comprehensive list though for scope of work. Compare to the other quotes for apples to apples. On quote #2, I want R8 insulation up and down. I don't believe you require a 90 KBTU furnace for upstairs area. I would want to see the load calc to support that size. Drop down to 70 K model. I assume Infinity controllers for both systems. How many returns on each floor? I would want two returns on each floor, properly sized and strategically located. Filter cabinets on both systems? I think a 3 ton condenser for upstairs is oversized and would suggest going down to a 2 1/2 ton Sgl stage high eff model. Don't like that condenser on the Trane quote. I would like to see evap coil model numbers. What about filter cabinets? What model thermostats? Is this rental property? Who will remove old radiators and old pipes and make necessary repairs including flooring? These are just some general observations. IMO This post was edited by tigerdunes on Tue, Aug 20, 13 at 13:02...See MoreNorthern CA HVAC Replacement Questions
Comments (12)Mike_Home - Thank you for the answers and advice. Here are some responses and follow-up questions. 1. SEER/EER - your answer is what I had been slowly understanding that these numbers are what drive the efficiency numbers. Rough calculations comparing my older 10 SEER unit to a 14 and 16 SEER unit plus using 1 year of energy bills, show a potential electricity improvement of $184/year for the 14 and $238.31 for the 16. Of course this is all dependent on a quality install as well as proper ducts, etc. as you've outlined in other points. 2. Payback will be uncertain as I was relocated for work. Not sure how long we'll be here and at this point, the energy savings per year is still important. 3. Understood. Before my research, I didn't realize that the furnace played such an important role in airflow. 4. My zoning explanation might have been poorly stated. The gist of what was mentioned, was that based on proper zoning, the more efficient airflow distribution within the home may allow for a 4 ton condenser. The condenser potentially wouldn't have to push air through all of the ducts at the same rate. Does that logic track with your experience? 5. Appreciate thermostat advice and handling all the features, etc. 6. The annual maintenance contract was from the contractor providing the detailed Goodman quotes. Participating in the yearly maintenance contract covers 100% of repair costs (Contractor backed, not OEM), includes a 10 year replacement warranty, and there are no dispatch or service fees for service calls. The replacement warranty is the full replacement of the failed unit rather than just repairing under the 10 year labor warranty with Goodman. If I don't do the yearly maintenance contract, there is no replacement warranty. Ever heard of this? The contractor (Goodman quotes) may have mentioned "calculations" at one point but I don't remember hearing about them doing a manual "J" load calc. As far as I can tell, Title 24 doesn't require the J calc. It does require a duct leak test performed by a certified 3rd party HERS testing company. This is required on ALL HVAC projects in CA. Rebates are only available as part of CA's Home Upgrade Program. This program has required testing and upgrades on items like ducts, whole home envelope, attic insulation, etc. I will go back to two of the contractors and ask them about performing the calculation. I am looking to replace the whole system at this point to make sure the equipment is compatible and most efficient. Goodman is making me increasingly nervous, especially with the Class Action lawsuit that was just set back last week based on a judge's ruling... As for the use of a different coil with the Goodman equipment, it seems to be very common with Goodman quotes (based on board postings like this). I think there is a relationship or commercial connection between Goodman and Aspen to drive the high use with Goodman systems. I don't know the true specs on the Ruud equipment, I was guessing a bit; I will ask for the models, etc. Thanks again!...See MoreElmer J Fudd
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