. . . and now it begins I had SPECIFICALLY insisted that the carpet be power stretched. It was written on my order. It was written on the installers' job sheet. So what do I find when I check on their progress? A stinger. Which punches holes in the carpet and is explicitly prohibited by the CRI. I took a picture of it and emailed it to Lowes, and told them that the installer had violated the Mohawk warranty requirements. And hopefully didn't take chunks out of my subfloor in the process, but probably did. The installation team manager called Mohawk to confirm what I told him, and they said yes, stingers are a no go. So, I told them they are going to have to do it all over again, with new fresh materials, and do it right. more fun.

thank you jellytoast, and mil workman for your reply He had good references and did work for some people at our church we go to. He was very expensive. I believed he knew what he was doing until I started to see things or hear what he was going to do. I also went to the Hardie website previous and realized he was not follow instructions. He is actually a very nice person but social has nothing to do with it anymore, now this is business and a lot of my money. I paid him a large deposit for supplies already and he has the tile in his possession that I also already paid for. But i went to the site you said John Bridge. They told me to stop the job. I did . I confronted him we discussed it. He agreed to remove it and absorb the loss. After I explained my situation and the condition of floor they told me about 'deflection' and now that is where I am. Job is on hold I am looking for a carpenter to look at the joists underneath. Plus I am scraping off the motor of the Hardi that was left behind. I am at a standstill right now. Dont know what is coming or what to expect. NOt one installer even mentioned anything about weight or joists or deflection of any kind. So i think if it wasn't this one it would have been any of the others i guess. Any ideas greatly appreciated.

I buy it by the gallon also. My mom use to use it all the time, but me being of the 60's generation or maybe I was just not smart back in the day abandoned vinegar and used store bought cleaners and such that my mom used vinegar for. I came back full circle when I got wiser, in my mid thirties..I think that is when I realized mom wasn't so dumb after all. LOL

Thanks! We just ate at a restaurant by where we are staying whose central attraction is a lemon tree! I couldn't believe it! The thing is that it is soooo pathetic-looking! Poor thing! It is in the wrong mix, without enough light, it needs pruning. I am going to go back and talk to the person in charge of that poor tree and tell them what they need to do to help it. I suspect it is a eureka maybe. It's leaves do not look like Meyer or Santa Teresa.