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So what's with the fixation on 'cheap' roses?
Comments (77)As a business owner myself, one thing EVERY business needs to know is how to roll with the times. I buy most of my plants at a local speciality, family owned garden center. I'll spend top dollar for most of my plants, and I always go back to that center because they treat me right. Ironically, the only mislabeled rose I've gotten was from them (see my Mary Rose thread). But you know, when I see sevilliana bareroots for $6 with no shipping, I'm all over that. It's a thrill for me to score like that. I don't expect you to understand it because you flat out refuse. Doesn't matter to me. You're not my husband (who learned in the first year we were married never to question how I shop 'cause I'm darned good at it and never waste). How can you (or anyone else for that matter) chastize THESE PEOPLE for putting rose vendors out of business??? These are the very people keeping them IN business. Heck, were it not for this forum teaching me how to grow roses, I'd still be growing roses like annuals and losing interest. You may not be on a fixed income, but enough people who posted in this thread are. Tell the mom of 4 kids and only 5 extra bucks to spend on plants that she's doing the world a disservice (well, actually you did)when she finds a rose on clearence at Home Depot. She's doing a tremendous service to her children by teaching them how to grow and nurture a living plant. Maybe one of those kids will fall in love with roses and be the next Peter Beales. Or maybe she lives in some podunk town and the only job her husband could get was at Home Depot. Should all those employees lose their jobs because we're not suppose to buy from their nursery? Should people stop propagating and planting from seed, too? You know, I too get annoyed with the scraggly, cheap trees (for example) I see at Lowes and those places. But the people who live near me who never in a million years would plunk down $200 for a decent tree at the local GC, buy and plant a few trees for $49/each. Sure they're not the best things, but at least those people were inspired to do something to make the world a little prettier. Same with roses. 20 years ago, I rarely saw roses in anyone's garden because they're not easy to grow here. Well, it's a little less risky if you're not a big gardener, and you give a few roses a try because they're affordable. Saying you're a snob is not an excuse for not even reading what people took the time to explain and share. If you want to be judgemental, that's up to you. Like I tell my kids, some things you just keep to yourself....See MoreWhy buying roses is dangerous
Comments (11)Masha, I am truly sorry that this happened to you, it is really sad, upsetting and sooo... unfair (I feel taking a wedding band is particularly mean)! Please, don't make it even harder on you and blame yourself for the loss of your jewelery, because you kept them in the bathroom! We all know that we "should do things more properly" (for example putting jewelery in a safe or hiding them in a more difficult to find place), but it requires so much discipline in the daily life. Who can always come up with that?! Nobody has the right to break into your house and steal things from you in the first place!!! I am glad, that you still have the camera and I am looking forward to seeing your newly, bought roses! Hopefully enjoying your beauties and taking photos of them distracts you a little bit from the bitter aftertaste that a burglary is leaving behind... Thanks for sharing your story and reminding all of us that burglary can happen any time to anyone and that we should trying to be as prepared as possible....See MoreWhy not buy at Home Depot or Walmart?
Comments (17)Actually, many of the online daylily sellers have plants in the $4-$6 range, which is cheaper than what you pay at the box stores. Growers will ship you better plants, positively identified and disease free. A local grower might even dig the plant for you while you wait, and it doesn't get much fresher than that! The bare root plants that Bill Maryott sends are so huge they wouldn't even fit in the "gallon" pots seen in stores. Late season bargains in the stores are usually abused plants requiring care from an experienced gardener to thrive. A plant from a reputable grower will be 3x the size, give you more divisions sooner, and therefore save you much money. My favorites are Maryott, Marietta, Aren't I Pretty, Earlybird. I totally agree with the others about buying close to home, as what grows for them should grow for you. Welcome to the obsession. Cindi...See MoreWhy buy the cow?
Comments (16)You have a great concern here. I'm on the consumer end of this and will offer up my 'doings' and hopefully you can gather some wisdom from the experience. We built our house on an acre last summer becuase we can't afford to write a check to some guy who builds homes. We finished in November, so all the lawn and etc.. is going to happen in spring 2005. Well, all winter the lawn seeding companies circled like vultures over a dead rat, and rather than tell them straight up that I can't afford a landscaper to seed/sod my lot, I let them pitch the sale. They protected the goods pretty well up front, but basically then after the speel was over, I'd start digging at the edges.. When could you start seeding? I found out that no earlier than April 1, it's too cold before that, let the frost out of the ground.. but don't wait until may or june, you want a head start on the weeds... 'check' So, what kind of seed are you going to plant? Whatever you want as a customer.... but typically we seed.. xyz.. because.... Some would pitch erosion netting, and here's why.. keeps the ground temp warmer, the birds can't eat the seed, helps runoff to not make gouges if you get a big rain. One firm guaranteed the lawn.. if I kept it watered and did fertilizer once ayear... They'd come back forever .. if I had grubs, dead spots, gouges from runoff right after they seeded it.. I asked.. If you use no eroision netting, how can you afford to come fix all my runoff problems? He said that they seed so much seed that the ground literally pops up as turf within a week. After that, no problems. *ding, light comes on in my head, seed a lot of seed*.. In the end, I seeded about 6 pounds per 1000sqft of a very high quality pure kentucky bluegrass, seeded over it with about 2 pounds/1000 annual rye (to come up fast and hold the dirt while the blue gets established), and did put down erosion matting to hold the dirt, for all those reasons above. It worked great. I spent about $3500... The bids were mostly in the $7500 range. We couldn't afford to pay any of them. If I had a buddy in the industry, I'd have asked him what to do to get it to work so well, but since I didn't, this worked great. I wish you much success in your business and hope you can see through my experience some ways to guard agaisnt giving out the final answer for free....See MoreChi
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