I have all three of those (Sunset Celebration, Tahitian Sunset and Valencia). Valencia is my fav of the three, but it is slow to establish, as has been said. But once established, it has enormous very fragrant blooms of a really unique gold-peach color. It's also slow to repeat, but oh so worth the wait. Sunset Celebration is kinda blah, normal, as roses go. Nothing too exciting about it. Nice flower for cutting and it holds indoors. But not too much in the scent department. I tried to replace it once with a rose called Scent-sation, which is the same color but supposedly fragrant. NOT! Don't go there. Scent-sation is a disease magnet with much smaller flowers than Sunset Celebration and also, no fragrance in it that I can detect. Why someone had the nerve to call it "Scent-sation" is beyond me. Tahitian Sunset is also okay, but the form of the flower is a little loosey goosey for my taste (and actually I think they blow faster than Sunstruck flowers). Sunset Celebration has more hybrid tea-ish form, while Tahitian Sunset acts more like a floribunda. Tahitian Sunset is also a quick repeater, but I don't consider it a cutting rose for bouquets. It's more of a garden color splash, mostly orange. I haven't had terrible disease issues with any of the three, but I do spray reasonably regularly. Kathy

In your most recent post you stated that it's the new growth that is a "bronze or dull red". New growth on many (but not all) varieties is what we tend to refer to as burgundy (your dull red?), and 'Tahitian Sunset' is definitely one of the varieties that exhibit the trait. It's new growth is always a rich burgundy color that slowly changes to green. Perhaps it's a matter of color perception, but if the foliage is truly "copper or rust colored" as you first described it, then something else may be going on. If it's "dull red" (burgundy), then relax and exercise patience . . . it'll turn green in a few days' time.

I've also had great results with ours. It is one of the stronger scented roses from the 15 I had last year, and I'd describe it as a spicy rose scent, slightly like licorice. Don't know if that's 'myrrh' or not, but that's how it smells to me. I love it. We get a beautiful, soft range of colors in ours.

Very nice, I only have two buds on my plant (barely survives winter here) and they are beginning to show colour as well.