It is a beauty, but I'm trying hard to avert my eyes from the second picture.

And rust, it seems! It's that kind of year here, and pretty much everybody who's going to get them (rust, blackspot, PM, and "other") has got them -- esp. the red roses. Interesting to note that my 'Rose du Roi' (of commerce), that got rust dreadfully two years in a row a few years ago, has yet to show signs yet (knock on wood) -- seems so hit-or-miss, sometimes. Love those red roses anyway! Beautiful bloom.

i've wanted this one for a while! that BS though is no joke! please keep the photos coming :)

Are the yellow sploches from blackspot also, or are they symptoms from virus? I am asking because my Rose de Rescht shows yellow markings on leaves (and later 'damask crud'). I am thinking of removing it.

My assumption about those yellow splotches, Monarda, considering the overall situation, was rust, because that's what an infected leaf looks like on the side opposite of the spore-bearing structures on the underside. The orange powdery-looking spores would be underneath. Below are some photos I just took of rusty leaves on 'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain' (aka "Mr. Rust" or, more accurately, "Mr. Subject to Every Fungal Disease Known to Man"), plus it does seem that red roses of certain lineages tend to get rust a lot (I have several with it at the moment). Shebasheba can perhaps let us know?

Yup, everyone, black spot, and some rust. Hah, you'd be shocked to see my poor little "garden" and plants . . . . As I think I've said before, I have a tiny narrow "yard" at my building (I rent, in the city), which gets shade from our and the adjacent buildings. Most of my roses are in (too-small-now) pots, a few in the small bed. They don't get nearly enough sun most of the time; the place is damp, and everything gets black spot. I haven't seen rust until late last summer, and now I see some more of it.

Most of you would probably get rid of any roses with foliage like mine -- but I'm willing to tolerate the ugly foliage in order to have at least some beautiful blooms. And, in fact, thus far, things are looking better this year, maybebecause my plants are a bit older, bigger, stronger. I have a few that looked absolutely miserable for several years and are suddenly looking really good. So I'm hopeful -- but the potential is limited. I'd love to have a real garden . . . and a lot more room . . . I've been propagating roses and have nowhere to put new baby plants, nowhere to plant some of my container roses, which I know would LOVE to stretch out in a garden bed . . . but right now, it doesn't seem possible for a lot of reasons. I love seeing your beautiful gardens and healthy roses! Still -- I'd wanted roses for so long and only began growing a few years ago -- and now I do in fact have some beautiful roses, enough to cut a few most days for my bedside or to take to work with me. I love being able to give a beautiful rose to one of my coworkers as a treat.

That being said -- I'm really hoping that the improvement trend continues! Because between the black spot and then the rose slugs -- it's been pretty bad.

Anyway -- Michael -- I *don't* want you to think that this rose is especially prone to black spot -- I think it's probably quite healthy under more "normal" conditions. It's just my location/conditions, and almost all my roses are like this. I'd highly recommend it. Mine came from ARFR.

Mondarda -- I think it's just black spot and some rust. I don't think (praying!) that I have virus . . . .

Catspat -- a shame that Dr. Jamain doesn't seem able to cure himself, as the old saying goes!

Sheba

What is it with the RUST this year?! A couple of roses in my garden look like photo 2. Photo 1 is sublime! Carol

This seems to be mainly black spot -- I don't see much rust on the backs of his leaves, but there's some, and his neighbors in that corner have a bit of rust, also. End of last season, his neighbor Rose de Rescht turned to Rose de Rust -- but the new foliage is clean (thus far).