What better for a small kitchen, portable or 18" built-in dishwasher
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Dishwasher drawer vs 18 inch dishwasher
Comments (9)Haven't ever used a drawer, but you too can notice that dishdrawers have square racks as regular 24" DWs 18" diswashers are a compromise for very small kitchen. I mean : draw the biggest possible circle in a 24" x 24" square, then the biggest possible circle in a 18" x 24" rectangle. You can see that corners in the square are closer to the circle, while rectangle ones are not that close Spray arms draw a circle while spinning. So the spray action in rack corners is more effective in square rack designs (DD and 24" DW) than rectangular rack design (18" DW) If one is aware of this and loads a 18" DW consequently, there's no problem. But if you load tall and narrow juice glasses soiled of orange juice in the corners of a rectangular rack (18" DW), you can't pretend the will be cleaned as well as a dishdrawer or a regular 24" machine do Anyway a single drawer holds less items than the two racks of a 18" machine A regular 18" or 24" machine is more flexible than a double dishdrawer : in case of extralarge items you can raise the upper rack or even take it out (Bosch), with a dishdrawer ... you can handwash. I guess space is not your issue (a single drawer is as large as a 24" machine), rather you aren't supposed to have a daily full load in a regular 24" DW In this case be aware that latest european 24" DW have load size sensing devices and use 7-8 litres of water (round 2 gallons) for a *full= two racks* load. The *single* dishdrawer uses 1.95 gallons per load, so partially loaded 24" machines can even use less water than a *single* drawer. To cut a story short : if you have place go for a regular machine : it cleans better, you'll have plenty of place for those times you have guests at dinners and on the other side you can run partial loads without feeling "guilty"...See MoreAdvice Please: 18' dishwasher & 600cfm micro/hood combo
Comments (9)While Aprince's advice to go to a store to listen to a few is OK, the reality is that the stores usually don't have many connected, and there is so much other noise in an appliance store you won't be able to tell much. Also, your home's ductwork will be different, which will have an effect on the noise level. BTW, I am assuming you are having ductwork. If you are doing a recirculating hood, then my following paragraph on ductwork is irrelevant to you. But if you DO have ductwork, check what is its diameter. If it is, e.g. 6" diameter, that will make your selection easier because it limits your choices, as most (but not all) 600 cfm hoods need 8" diameter duct. If you will be installing new ductwork, make sure the contractor installs an 8" duct, and don't let him tell you that 6" is OK, or try to sneak 6" by you. Stand firm on the 8". Smaller ducts increase noise. Many complaints about noisy hoods are actually related to a too-small duct. Try to get a hood with baffle filters, not mesh. Mesh filters clog fairly quickly, and thereby lose efficiency until you put them in the DW. Baffle filters get just as dirty of course, but don't lose efficiency as they get coated with grease. Restaurant hoods only use baffle filters. My final advice is to try to get the deepest hood you can. Since I am sure you will be limited to a 30" width hood over your 30" Bluestar range, try to buy a hood that is closer to 27" deep (i.e. front to back) if possible, and if within your budget. At the very least don't go shallower than 24". You will find lower-priced hoods that are less than 24" deep, which will not provide enough capture area over your range. The 27" deep ones, while better, are harder to find, and more expensive. So you have some shopping to do! Definitely do searches on this forum about hood brands. Don't forget eBay. Many people on this forum have gotten wonderful deals on hoods there....See MoreWhat is the best portable dishwasher money can buy ?
Comments (11)I have been using an 18" Danby portable for about four years and have had no issues with it yet, other then it does not clean avocado from anything, everything else works fine. I like the fact that it takes salt and that it has a filter and that when it runs out of salt or dryer liquid it continues to work with just the light showing to remind you that you have an issue. It is much quieter than the 24 inch 15 year old DW it replaced. Like all of the new dishwashers it has a longer cycle time, so I tend to run it last thing at night as it will hog your kitchen if you try to run it during the day. The hoses are relatively inexpensive plastic and while they feel cheap they have performed without issue. The manual for this model did not explain how to use the salt function and you really need it if you are in a hard water area. In the big picture you unscrew the reservoir and dump in about four pounds of salt. Salt can be bought at home depot- a 40 pound bag is less than $6.00 currently. You do have to find storage somewhere in your house or garage for the other 36 pounds I still haven't finished the first bag. I contacted Danby directly about how to use the salt and they were very responsive. Who knows maybe they have even corrected their manual by now to include the missing pages explaining where to insert the salt.....it does not have an internal garbage disposal so you do have to rinse the bigger chunks off the plates. I do not wash the plates and then put them in the dishwasher. I just clear the big chunks. The DW is relatively easy to move around and its looks have held up very well. I bought it used on craigslist for $100. The prior owners had children and had not bothered to clean the filter. The first time I ran it a lot of water accumulated in the bottom of the cabinet. I had to scoop it out, poke around to clear the block and then clean the filter. I clean the filter every couple of months and it takes less than two minutes to do-you remove the filter very easily it just unscrews, you then run it underwater scrape off anything visible and then screw it back in. I would recommend this dishwasher....See Moreare frameless cabinets better for a small kitchen?
Comments (46)You're so right about finding someone you can work with! We spent many months of "group-think" time at home deciding what to do with our 70s kitchen. At the time it was the two of us plus an adult son who was living at home. (Yes! He's found a "real" job that pays a living wage now. Sadness, he's moved 600 miles away.) After months of "thinking outside the box," we came to the conclusion that our best option was to work inside the box. [Meaning that we eventually didn't change the basic footprint of the space.] That was when we started looking at cabinets and were eventually taken with InnerMost. By chance, the guy at HD was a great fit for us. It was kind of like wandering around Lowe's and running into Green Designs, although I'm pretty sure Green Designs is even better. We had a short flirtation with a custom guy, but it just wasn't working. If it's not working, Big Box, custom, KD, or whoever, it just won't work. Unless there's some big rush, don't settle for people who don't click with you. On the cost: the cabinets will be a large proportion of what you spend. They'll also be around a lot longer than the appliances. Having a fancy 'fridge or a gorgeous backsplash is pretty much icing on the cake of a kitchen reno. The bones of a reno is the cabinets. Maybe having to do something about the structure of your floor will be an expense there's no way around, but after that, the cabinets are the big thing. You're doing all the right things to find ones that will suit your needs and wants. Dorm 'fridge notwithstanding, try not to rush this planning stage - you'll be happier in the end to find the "right" cabinets and the "right" people. P.S. If you end up going with Bellmont, be sure to post after they're in and you've used them for a while. That's not a brand that we see much here and it's always good to hear from someone who's been there IRL....See MoreHeather
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