A couple of years ago the municipality provided us with two big bins with bars on the side that an arm from the recycling and garbage trucks reach out to grab and hoist to dump into their bins. A hundred dollars a year is added to our tax bill. The recycling bin, that tapers slightly and has rounded corners is about 4 feet high and 3 feet across at the top, and has a pair of wheels not quite a foot high. The garbage bin is somewhat smaller, with smaller wheels. Neither is much fun to push/drag down a muddy or snowy lane about 500 feet long. As I produce little refuse, by the time food and other waste goes to compost, and quite a bit to the large recycling bin, and metals for hauling to the scrapyard ... there's not a lot for the garbage bin, so the bins don't go down to the roadside very often. Honesty rather compels me to admit that some of the waste goes into a pile out between the equipment parking lot and the field to be burned, occasionally (a couple of times a year). Seldom related to weiners and/or marshmallows. ole joyful

CEM TOSA, I appreciate your experience and knowledge. I’m sure your home will be beautiful. I will do the best I can with mine. We are not rushed at this time to build. If we proceed with building now, I do realize the prices/economy will not allow the size or everything I love. But to dream and plan is the most enjoyable thing to me. We will see in a year or two what will be then.

Temporatily remove the flange. Anyone with an angle grinder can easily and cleanly trim off the edge of that flange in about 10 seconds so it will sit flush up against the tile. A little bit of silicone where the tile and flange meet will prevent any rust from appearing. This would be the cleanest and least ugly solution.

You need to sit down & make a list of things you do or would like to do, that this room could support, vs. if you find up with nothing, or come up with idea that some other room of space should be re- configured for better function. I understand the idea of “ wasted “ guest rooms, and motel option, and we expect to use tgd motel option for any large groups, or parent ms wanting a getaway, but even though we only have guests 3-4 times a year also, it is useful because my grandchildren are still small enough that being on- site is important ( bedtime routines and early mornings!), also an elderly relative that can’t drive back & forth, another relative that visits & we enjoy sitting up late talking & then can crash. So I use it for my exercise room, can leave my stuff out to encourage sticking to routine. But can then put things away when needed. I do a different type of routine than DH, who keeps his own equipment in another room! We already had a queen bed and while I wish it didn’t take up so much space, it’s a comfortable bed so have not been motivated to get a less- comfortable sofa- bed option. The door and window placement is not good for a Murphy. When the movers were setting up the bed, they wanted to center it on the logical wall for that, but we had them place it against a wall, which gives me more floor space. I also love using a spare bed for laying out stuff for packing for trips. I’m not saying buy or build a room just for that, but that’s another way I use the room and really enjoy it. Also consider whether you need an “ away room” for TV. DH is still working so we have a home office with a small sofa and a TV.