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interested in gardening in california....need help with zones!
Comments (11)kawaiineko, you might also want to look at Plant Maps' Heat Zone map for California, which shows how many days per year are likely to be above 86 degrees: http://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-california-heat-zones-map.php When I was 12, we moved from Fremont to Menlo Park -- from about 4 miles east of the Bay to about 5 miles west of the Bay, and a total distance of about 14 miles -- and couldn't understand why the summer was so hot in Menlo Park. Now I see that we moved from Zone 1 (averaging no more than 1 day above 86* per year) to zone 5 (averaging between 31 and 45 days above 86* per year)! [You can also put in a zip code for somewhere in a different state and see a Heat Zone map for that state. Note the list of Plant Maps' other maps with different information in the right hand margin.] I'm under the impression that these Heat Zone maps are simply a non-copyrighted version of the American Horticultural Society's Plant Heat Zone Map, which is illegible online, but they will happily sell you a legible printed map. I assume both groups generated the maps from non-copyrighted government info. === USDA's Plant Hardiness Zone shows the average low temperature (within a 5* F. range) -- and that's all it indicates. USDA zone info is really only good for knowing what plants should survive winter cold. For instance, both San Francisco much of middle Florida are both 9b. 9b in San Francisco means mild summer weather (my dad swore June was the coldest month of the year and frequently took his coat to work), foggy, and extremely changeable. It's difficult to ripen tomatoes because sunlight and heat are both sometimes inadequate. 9b in Florida, on the other hand, is horribly hot and humid and includes some of the best commercial tomato-growing areas in the state -- but you can't really grow tomatoes outdoors in the summer in Florida, because it's too hot for successful pollination and fruitset, and the plant itself is overly stressed. http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/ === Sunset's system actually covers the entire U.S., not simply California. It gives a more detailed description of the type of weather year round -- but the degree of detail it gives varies from place to place. For some places it sounds very helpful. But when I look at the map, my zone 36 includes pretty much the entire Appalachian region between southern Pennsylvania and about 30 miles north of Atlanta (an area extending more than 400 miles). "Growing season: May to late Oct. Thanks to greater elevation, summers are cooler and less humid, winters colder (0 degrees to -20 degrees F/-18 degrees to -29 degrees C) than in adjacent, lower zones. Rain comes all year (heaviest in spring). Late frosts are common." It may be accurate, but it's too general -- and it won't tell you whether your new plants will freeze or not! http://www.sunset.com/garden/climate-zones/...See MoreBougainvillea in Oregon? Please HELP!!!
Comments (3)A doubtful maybe. Personally I'd plant them thinking I'd need to replace them with something hardier next year. But if they make it through the winter and came back - no skin off my nose. hehe. If they make it for a couple years or more, they may get a big enough root system to sustain them, even through the "BIG" years. But I'd still think of them as "temporary" plants, and just be happy for as long as they make it through. I've got a pineapple sage that's been coming back for 3 years now, but I still regard it as "temporary," since they're not supposed to be perennial in my zone. I'll just enjoy it for as long as it hangs around....See MoreHelp - AC vs Heat Pump vs Geothermal in Oregon Log Home
Comments (6)Thanks Tigerdunes: Electricity use is as follows: First 1,000 kWh 6.778 â per kWh Over 1,000 kWh 7.500 â per kWh ( I use about 800 kwh without AC and 1300 Kwh with it) Propane: 2.69per gallon - usage in winter used to be approx 350-400 gallons per month! I agree that the mark ups for the Heat Pumps condensor are outrageous. The cheapest price I was quoted was $5310 for a Trane XB14 unit, or $5225 for RUUD. I started shopping in May, have had 4 contractors out here, and still see major issues with each contractor. The one I like the best is from Sky Heating, as he was the most thorough, and company got the best reviews. He had the lowest prices as well, but they are still about 3 times the wholesale cost. I have the money to pay for the more expensive systems, but I just can't find a good reason to do that. won't, on principle, as I feel they are purposefully marking them up. This kind of stuff happens to everyone, but seems to happen a bit more to single women ?!? (kind of a sexist comment, but I have noticed this to be true). Back to the subject at hand - I looked at QualitySmith.com for nationwide averages for installation on various Trane Heat Pumps - I compared it to the bids I received: Trane Installation costs (range nationwide) XR15:Install cost $4500-$10,000 (quote= $8100) XB14 Install cost = $3000-$7500 (qutoe was $5300) XB13 install cost =$2500-$6500 (quote was $6400) I noticed in another post that you were recommending a SEER 13 unit, but did not like the Trane XB13 (SEER 14-15) but not the Trane units. You specifically wrote that wrote that you would not get a Trane XB13. I was wondering if you liked any of the Trane models that I have listed? What Brands/models do you like that are SEER 13? Any suggestions for how to find a more competitive bid? I tried Bargaining with one contractor, and I could tell he was completely resistant to it- giving me less information each time I contacted him; strong arming me to come back and meet with me again, etc. Here are some other Brands I received bids for - they also seemed a bit high but are cheaper than others: : Carrier 25HBC5 Comfort - SEER 14.5 FOR $6289_ York YHJFLX series SEER 14.5 for $5869.00 RUUD 4 ton Achiever SEER 14.5 $5225 I would like to pay less than $5000 but that has not been possible. With 5000 Square foot home, and the logs not chinked, I don't envy the contractors for trying to decide what would work best. A two zone system is preferred in houses like this but the cost to retrofit is exorbitant. Desperately confused in Oregon! Thanks again...See MoreNorthern California,Oregon, and Washington fires
Comments (7)I live about 60 miles south of the latest huge "Valley" fire. It is not affecting us (and the winds are blowing it in the opposite direction), but of course it is all over the news. The astounding thing to me is that this is the FOURTH huge fire in that same area (same county) this summer! The other astounding thing, of course, is the speed of how fast they move - it said on the news last night that the Valley fire burned 40,000 acres in the first 12 hours! Sounds like a Sci Fi horror movie. It burned up 2 small towns in the first 2 days. The firefighters were not even able to fight the fire the first day or so, because they were spending all of their time (as were the local police, and the CA Highway Patrol, and the Sheriffs) forcing people to evacuate who had ignored the evacuation orders. They are not amused, to put it mildly. They said that they were literally getting people out of their homes just as the fire line was approaching them. At least around here, the authorities are very reluctant to issue actual evacuation "orders" (as opposed to recommendations), so when they do, folks should pay more attention! The human capacity for denial is amazing. Anyway, the result was only one dead, but complete destruction of almost 600 homes, as of course they were focusing on saving lives before property. The weather has changed - it was over 100 degrees F, and below 10% humidity when the Valley fire raged the first 2 days. Now here, and also there, it is about 55 degrees F, and the humidity is in the high 80%, and it is drizzling. This has made it possible for them to get the fire 10% contained so far. The governor has called out the state National Guard to help, and we even have a firefighter unit which came here from Australia (I think because we both are subject to horrid fires, and the fire seasons are opposite, and both have lots of experienced firefighters, Calif and Australia have sent people to help each other in fire emergencies before). Jackie...See More- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
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