which David Austins for hot & humid South ?
pink rose(9b, FL )
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David Austin for hot weather
Comments (5)Hi there I am in Zone 9-dry and hot here-100+ in summer. I have Heritage that does great! It's true the roses shatter but it blooms so prolificly I don't really mind. The rose bush gets to over 6 feet-I try to hold it under 8 feet. This is its third year. If I pick the roses while still in bud they do pretty good in a vase-I give them a B- for that. My sister grows Pretty Jessica-its the bomb! It took off like a rocket in her yard. I have Happy Child also-but its kinda puny-definitely the Tiny Tim of the roses...giving it a little more time to settle in. My happiest roses in the heat (not Austins) are Fame (HT) and Julia Child. Happy growing...See MoreWhich David Austin would you never plant again/
Comments (180)One that really didn't "make it" for me is Spirit of Freedom. It hangs on, and it gives a few blooms a year, that flop, and often ball (people say it likes warm climates), and it is in a rose hedge in NE exposure. But in the sunnier spot, I didn't get one viable bloom. I also couldn't get my two own-root Othellos to take off for anything, but they seem so pretty, I may try again (you can still find them under their secondary name "Auslo"). But I now know that it was "my fault" some of my Austins that didn't make it . Like, for example, thanks to this forum, I learned that it takes a few years (at least 3 years) for many to get going, so I maybe I SP them too soon. When I first started gardening, I put things in the ground, never watered them, and if they made it, they made it, and surprisingly, quite a few of them did, including Lady Emma Hamilton and Claire Austin, which are both 16 years old, and survived a move. But they definitely were not giving the "best" of themselves. When I got a bigger garden, and tried some new Austins, I was really disappointed because I had so few blooms and a few croaked, so I started planting other things, but now am going back to them. Here are a couple of things I have learned from that experience (and thank you to the experts on this forum, among others like the Rose Geek and Darren Harwood, as my roses have never looked better or had buds so early!): 1) Soak bareroot roses longer and harder than most basic websites say (I even resurrected a few that seemed dry and dead in the box by leaving them soaking for days, and wow, did they hit the ground running compared to the ones from years past and has less die back) 2) in my opinon, it's better to get bareroots early in the season, when it's still warm, and plant before winter because the ones at the end of planting season can be dried-out conkers and they may freeze as they begin 3) plant them with good commercial dirt and feed if you have bad dirt in the ground (which I do) 4) and if potted, totally plant them with their dirt 5) to get the best of roses, it really is essential to feed or compost on the schedule experts like the Rose Geek give (In my "worst" exposure, I thought my lack of blooms, at first was due to not enough sun, but if I feed, I even get blooms in late fall, when they only get like an hour or two, and the healthier they are, the fewer diseases they get (like people) 6) DA roses and "baby" (new) roses do need more water than one thinks--this was my worst rookie mistake 7) many DA roses like cool and humid better than hot and dry 8) and, if struggling, don't hesitate to move them from hot to cooler, more or less sun, pot or ground, sometimes they come back in a new spot but sometimes they don't 9) Don't hesitate to put in the compost (or SP) a disease or pest magnet, as, when it's gone, the disease goes, and like jobs and partners, some are just a "bad fit" for one, even if good for others 10) giving roses a "haircut" ( remove leaves and prune) seems to help if massive infestation or disease attack, they will come back, and especially, get rid of leaves during winter prune, and that is how I got rid of nasty fungal attack due to bad experience with Baron Girod d'Ain. Also, in Europe, the DA roses I have are either on Laxa, own-root, or occasionally multi-flora, and they seem to perform quite differently than their US counterparts. Like my own-root Princes are healthy, continuous blooming stars. And my own-root Abes are a real toughies, too. These may be the basics for many people on this forum, but some DA roses are super tricky, and I almost gave up, so here is everything I have learned for those who are as frustrated as I was when I started! (And I am still learning so please take this advice as the imperfect, work in progress, it is! And thanks again to the experts here!)...See MoreAustins for hot and humid
Comments (25)I live in Thailand. I think here zone 11. I order quite a lot of David Austin Roses from Holland nursery. I think the best roses that I grew is Abraham Darby, Jude the Obscure, Charles Darwin and Golden Celebration very good blooming producing roses like 20-50 bloom a month all year round also long and strong cane too. For Claire Rose, Heritage, Brother Cadfael, Othello, Crown Princess Margareta, Jayne Austin, Falstaff and Jubilee Celebration are doing fine here but blooming not for long season and hate rain. For St Cecilia and The Pilgrim are poor not beautiful like David Austin picture. Slowly not much bloom and can get easy rust. Roses arenÂt enough petal only single petals. For Spirit of Freedom and Geoff Hamilton is still not blooming yet but very tall strong cane. I think David Austin roses most of them are good for dry and hot climate but keep much watering and feeding. They are lovely rose with strong fragrance in hot climate especially tea fruity scent and myrrh scent. Good luck with your roses...See More~ David Austins ~ Which are best ????
Comments (6)When posting questions, try the "Roses" forum instead of the "Rose Gallery". This is the place we share pics, but you'd probably get a better response over there. My relations with DAs are not very relevant to you as we are in a very different climate. I will say, however, that the pictures in the catalog don't lie and they really are as beautiful as they're described. I have hardly any disease on mine (I grow at least 30 different Austins) but I have heard people in hotter zones having more trouble. They repeat for me all summer into fall. Like all roses, they do appreciate extra water and fertilizing but not more so than most other roses. BTW, The Fairy, Old Blush China, and Knockout are not Austins. The Fairy and Knockout have hardly anything in common with Austins. Try the Roses Forum and you will likely get a better response from people closer to your climate. Brother Cadfael, one of my favorites Charlotte Moulineaux--fades to colors other than yellow in the catalog Abe Darby Heritage...See Moresultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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