hybridizing English oak with Cork oak
Parker Turtle
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Comments (7)Thanks for your input. I think I am leaning more towards the White Oak, saw one last weekend and found it to be beautiful! Red Oaks are very popular and I don't see very many White ones. The location abuts the two rear corners of each of my neighbors yards that are definitely not high traffic! So I think I will be good :). I understand the growth rate is slower but I think the White Oak has a prettier form. I won't even consider a Pin Oak. Had one in our front yard 13 years ago planted by the previous owners that was starting to die when we moved in(due to chlorosis), and continued to die for another 6 years before we had it removed. I also see a bunch of them all over suffering. Toronto soil does not seem to be a good match for them. Thanks for the input!...See MoreTree recommendation--hybrid oak or ??
Comments (59)Tom--and the rest of my advisers here: I forgot to mention that I have some hickories. I have two shellbark, pignut, mockernut, and shagbark. I have two shellbark because I planted the first one on a bit of a ridge where the soil is more shallow, I subsequently read that shellbark hickory is generally a bottomland species. In the spring the buds get very large, and just before and after break, the bud scales, or whatever they are called, grow and become red, so the tree seems to be covered with flowers--beautiful. I have some hickory on my timberland, and one shagbark, especially, is absolutely gorgeous. Looking at this tree, one could imagine it is the most beautiful tree in the world. One problem here is they grow very, very slowly. I also have 2 hiccan hybrids, which are supposed to grow extremely fast, but for me they are almost not growing, even after 5 years, and I have three pecans, also of the genus Carya, of course. They are also growing very slow in my environment here. I love hickories, but here--what's the old saying? "I should live so long!" I did some more research on American beech--based on what I can find out, maybe my initial idea of not bothering with it here is correct. They really, really don't like droughts, and don't like exposed sites. I never, never see any in the woods around here, and I am not sure I can point to a single one in Winchester. Beautiful trees, but I am afraid not for here. Well, I am still looking for ideas. I know it is a sin in the minds of many in these forums, but I may just prune up a Norway spruce or two for shade trees, and/or white pine. But so far the oaks are the best I have. I mentioned the white and swamp white oaks, but the two largest are Shummard oaks--they thrive here. Oh, and I have cottonwoods. They are not spreading yet, so not much shade. Where I grew up--from age 5 to 15, the primary tree for shade and general enjoyment was a cottonwood. Gorgeous!! I have a Siouxland cultivar of eastern cottonwood. In the ground 5 years, 20 feet tall, and looking like it may be the star of all the 120 or so kinds of trees I have here!! Wonderful large leaves, rich green, glossy, and so far this tree is acting like it is more drought resistant than my other cottonwoods. --spruce...See MoreQuercus patraea (sessile oak)
Comments (1)Primarily naming tradition, but also distribution. While both Q. robur and Q. petraea (note spelling!) occur pretty much throughout the British Isles, Q. robur is predominant in the south and east (i.e., England), whereas Q. petraea is predominant in the north and west (mainly Scotland, Wales, Ireland). The two hybridise in some areas, but not in others; it depends mainly on whether there is a significant overlap in flowering times or not. Where I am, the native oaks are virtually all intermediate hybrids (sci name Quercus à rosacea) to a greater or lesser degree, but closer to Q. petraea than to Q. robur. If I find a pure Q. robur here, it is almost certainly planted. Why Q. petraea isn't sold in the US . . . no idea! Resin PS if anyone wants to try Quercus à rosacea, I can easily get some acorns next month, tho' I'm not sure if they can be imported into the US (you'd need to check with APHIS for regs; note I can't get phytosanitary certificates for them)....See MoreEnglish Oak Question
Comments (11)As a follow up on this topic, I have another question regarding going from a "hybrid" back to a "natural state". I planted a hybrid brand name "Starburst" Honey Locust seedpod from my Father-In Law's tree 2 years ago. The parent tree came from a nursery about 35 years ago and this hybrid was appealing to potential buyers at the time because it was thornless and has especially vibrant yellow new growth foliage in the Spring. The offspring tree I planted is still very small but definately has tons of thorns! It has reverted back to be a plain old Honey Locust.Why do some trees revert back to the natural state but others retain the characteristics of the hybrid? I guess what I am asking is that if a hybrid English oak columnar tree retains the same shape when an acorn is planted, why would a Honey locust revert back to it's "thorny" natural state?...See MoreParker Turtle
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