rockybird, I'm sure it's not your fault, but why is a laundry room question in the kitchen forum?

Where will the ironing board go? Interested in a clothing steamer? Where will hampers/baskets go/be stored?

Generally looks good. The price of a builtin freezer will be high to astronomical.

move the sink closer to the freezer: you will have longer counter next to washer/ dryer then. I find I need /want space to pull things out of dryer to fold/sort/etc. You have sink right in middle of run.....I'd push it up.

@Toronto vet. I didnt know there was a laundry forum. I’ve seen other laundry questions here so I posted. I guess I can repost there then. Thanks!

@miley THanks those are good points! Do you see any room for those items? Maybe I will not put in closet next to AC and will leave that space open for those things? I was afraid of the freezer being expensive...argh.

@herbflavor- great point! Thank you!!! I will point this out to ctr.

Toronto - rockybird has been active in the kitchen forum; we know her kitchen and clean lines and I'm guessing she has come back for help in an adjacent room (as I did way too often with my pantry). Anything she cares to show, I will look forward to seeing:)

rockbird - Did I miss the BP reveal and/or bathroom reveals? Please do link if so. This new plan has great potential - will the parrots be in the connecting room? (So neat that you are planning for them!).

Because I had to strain to figure out the details, including a larger picture. Random thoughts follow. Do you wash the birds / do they need a bigger sink? I am a huge pocket door fan, are you allowing enough space for a pocket door there? Is the half bath there, with the other right around the corner, to accommodate the new space? This is a lot of walking just to get to the kitchen from the garage (just saying). Broom closet? Lower tools like a Roomba? What does A/C mean (I see it in the BP too). If you're slaving away doing laundry, do you want a TV or radio? Maybe plan storage here for things not used that often?

Edited to add - put pink up and see how it looks in different lighting.

You guys are the best!

Thank you Rita and oldbat2be! :) :) :)

oldbat2be-Thank you. The butler pantry will be built at the same time. I was going to keep the cabinets walnut, like the kitchen. It will have a dw. BP plan:

The birds are very tiny - 60 - 150 grams. All of them could fit in a tiny sink for a bath together. The biggest one actually comes in the shower with me. :)

AC in the BP are two ac handlers for the house. They will be covered by pocket doors. AC in the laundry is for the room addition and may also cool the laundry. We put it there so that we can run the duct on the roof. I am not a fan of it in the laundry but otherwise I may have to run the ducts in the rooms and that would produce soffits and the room addition entry would have to be 7 ft.. high, not 8 ft.

I am thinking I should do a freezer drawer instead of full freezer. That would give more counter space. Should I make a place to sit at the counter? I had hoped for more space in this room , but it is already so narrow. Maybe I will add some walnut shelves too.

I know it’s a long walk but there’s no other place to put the garage. Homes in this neighborhood are 5000 sq. Ft. Plus and I think many have entry corridors.

The architect says we should be good with a pocket door in the half bath. I still dont know about an ironing board. I actually dont iron but it would be nice to have space for.

How about this?

Here’s some pics of Kitchen for reference *soffit is coming down) The BP is behind bank of wall cabinets:

You can put the ironing board on any handy wall or back of a door. But it can't be a pocket door! Inside of closet door will work if it's solid core. The steamer can go in the closet if the shelves aren't too deep.

Thank you MIley. That is good to know!

I am worried trying to get down the narrow doorway into the lr will be difficult with a basket. I am thinking of these changes:

- replace the freezer with a pretty walnut built in cabinet.

- Remove closet next to AC and leave space open.

- Add under counter freezer.

Can you stack your W/D next to the AC instead? And, then keep a full size freezer? How many people live here? I know that I'd prefer the function of a full sized freezer over an under-counter one.

"@Toronto vet. I didnt know there was a laundry forum. I’ve seen other
laundry questions here so I posted. I guess I can repost there then.
Thanks!"

Well, that actually makes me feel better. I saw it on the same day as the horrible new forum configuration appeared with so many cross posts, and I was afraid Houzz had done it based on the fact you used the word "pantry" in your post, or something. The fact and reason that you posted it here makes me feel much better ;)

What will you keep in the freezer, and how much of it? Now that our youngest is off to school, my freezer is nearly empty and we are pretty much using the freezer in the kitchen side-by-side.

Could you put a small freezer next to the AC?

Thank you for all the great replies! The archtitect is drawing this up and I am afraid it is not quite right.

One problem is the doorway is 30” and there would be a 35” short entry aisle with a w/d or closet next to it. Would that be hard to navigate with a laundry basket?

I would keep mostly bird food in the freezer. I have a Thermador fridge/freezer now and the freezer side seems so small. I dont think it would work for a family if they ever bought this house. I’m thinking an under counter freezer would work okay for me.

It is just me living here with no children, but this is a big house and it seems I would need more freezer space to make it functional if I ever sell it (I hope never to have to though).

Am I even thinking of this right? Does the bp look okay? It has 7 foot ceilings, is dark, has the AC units so maybe isnt an optimal space. It does have two small skylights. It’s closer to the kitchen. Is it okay to use it as a BP for the kitchen countertop appliances (nespresso, instantpot, etc)?

The birds are very tiny - 60 - 150 grams. All of them could fit in a
tiny sink for a bath together. The biggest one actually comes in the
shower with me. :)

That cracked me up!

Don't worry about an ironing board if you don't iron.

I will also be using the laundry for storing and preparing food dishes for my little guys.

Do you have a list of everything you would like to store in the laundry room and BP? That would help define the spaces. We added a pullout to our pantry for laundry bins (and also water and power hookups for eventual washer and dryer on main level) as well as pull out file cabinets too. Have you considered storage for paper towels for quick cleanup? (Lots of neat pull out solutions on GW).

I actually like our cabinets and trim colors better in the pantry than in the kitchen; ceilings are just shy of 8 feet, well lit with overhead cans and under cabinet lighting. Storing your countertop appliances in the BP absolutely seems like the right thing, unless it's less functional to do so.

If this is your forever house, focus on what you would like and your vision for the space. Functionality and form!

This may be a dumb point/question, but in looking at your overall layout, I'm not sure I see the utility of having a half bath in the laundry room. It looks like the full bath adjoining the butler's pantry serves the same purpose, since it's in the living area and the bedrooms have their own baths. If you didn't have the half bath, you'd have more options for placement of things in the laundry room.

As for an ironing board, could you lean one against the air handler in the A/C closet (and never look at it again :) )?

Sorry - I just saw these replies!

Bat2be- My dream would be to be able to fit small cages for them to eat on top of in the laundry room for dinner and lunch, like in the pic below. I think I would only need two of these cages because two birds could eat on the counter. I’m just not sure this space is big enough to give me what I want. I would like to have:

- freezer for frozen vegetables and bags of bird room (I think a minimum of an undercounter freezer should work)

- counter space to store seeds in sealed jars

- drawer space for treats (one large drawer would work)

- sink for laundry and to wash bird dishes

- microwave space

The aisle space is 5-5.5’. I”m hopeful the AC closet wont need to be so big, so the aisle can be larger.

AvatarWalt - thank you! I thought the same thing about the half bath, but I dont really have a powder room for guests. And I thought if someone used the room attached to the garage as an office or exercise room, then they would have quick access to a bathroom.

Well, I can't fully step into your life and needs, but if it were me, I think I'd be content with taking a few extra steps from the garage room, and to have guests use the existing bath (which looks like it's closer to the entertaining areas, plus doesn't require a walk through the laundry room) in exchange for more space for the things you seem to really want in the laundry room. In my experience, tucked-away bathrooms like that are often kind of a neglected mess, and the laundry room is often a catch-all that I'd prefer not to have to keep impeccable for guests.

If you could put the A/C in the area where the powder room is, the room would feel wider too. I'm sure the layout gurus could whip up something practical and useful. You could even put a double closet in the bedroom instead, and move the A/C down to the garage end of the room.

Sorry to keep cluttering up this thread, but I was looking at the diagram again and wondering if you need a "mud room" area in the laundry--even though I understand it's a hot, dry climate. You don't seem to have a spot for jackets, shoes, etc., or will that be in the end of the addition right by the garage?

Thank you AvatarWalt! I am so back and forth on the bathroom. I really like the idea of having it though, but your point is entirely valid. There's a closet in the connecting room. I'm hoping that will be enough. There will also be a large closet in the BP. I'm hoping that's enough. I will play around with the design and see if I can come up with something better. Thank you!!! :)