You need a 9" broom closet between those ovens and the wall. Just like a fridge would need. Or you may not get the racks out.

I've just taken some photos.

In this one I tried to line up a board with the wall to show how much it sticks out. Measuring show 4.5 inches from the oven edge to the tip of the handle.

Right side front

I'm not home but will take pictures tomorrow and post. By the time I get home at 1am it will be too dark to get the different angles.

As you can see, I had the same situation you had. I solved it by making the kitchen opening larger. I suspect you could do the same and just install a larger door to the pantry. A 2' 6" door is pretty darn small in my opinion. My house had small doors as well, and I've now gotten rid of all but two of them.

Oh that is incredibly helpful.

I agree with you on the size of the pantry door... it is almost the only narrow door in the house and I'm not sure why we made it that size! I guess so the door itself didn't encroach as far into the pantry? Or maybe it was initially a pocket door (and it couldn't be any bigger) and we changed it to a swing? The framers are coming back to make a few final changes... maybe we can widen it 2-4 inches.

Would someone be willing to measure for me? I think from looking at Bluestar's specs that the handle would already swing into our doorway but I'd love to be sure!

Currently we have 11 1/2 inches from the cabinet front to the door opening. Here's the dimension I would need, I think:

Incidentally, is that the opening you made wider to accommodate the oven? I can't blame you... it *is* a beautiful oven. :)

It is 13 1/8 inches from the wall to the handle. And yes, that's the opening that was made wider. Originally it was 5 feet wide and now it's 8 1/2. Makes a real difference in the usability of the house. When the oven was installed, the handle hit the wall (the contractor didn't look at the specs or picture I provided so he made it for a traditional door).

As you can see in the Right Side Front picture, the door goes slightly beyond 90 degrees, so you'll need to allow for that. It isn't much, but it's not zero either. However, I tested and with the doors open at exactly 90 degrees, you can remove the racks just fine. Note that when the door is open it extends slightly past the closed position where it's even with the control section.

I've added two photos that may help.

Door open at 90 degrees:

Door fully open:

You're a gem! Thanks so much. I think I'll make sure the cabinets have a generous trim on the end, an extra inch or two, and see about a wider doorway. But even with things as they now stand, it should be functional.

*Huge sigh of relief*

A couple of overview pictures and food from the oven:

I was baking today so I kept the door at exactly 90 degree and my full size sheet went in with no problem.

The doors open slightly past 90.

I designed a 33" cabinet so there is 1 1/2" on each side.

That is with the door open. Keep in mind, it does it include the handles.

It's too bad Bluestar doesn't publish drawings with door open because the pictures always make the angles look greater than they are. But like Beachem says, at exactly 90 degrees there's no problem putting in a full size tray or pulling out the racks.

For safety you'll want long oven mitts. I use these--not cheap as the price shown is for a single glove, but they work very well: https://smile.amazon.com/San-Jamar-KT0115K-Temperature-Protection/dp/B002NQID58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507810632&sr=8-1&keywords=san+jamar+kt0115k

Hi Do your Bluestar wall ovens, have issues with Fan running lots and load when cooking. Or temperature being off. Lastly the electronic display issues with turning light on and electric panel not being tight fit ? Thank you for your help.

The fans run but you can barely hear them. They are necessary to keep the electronics cool. (Interestingly, they don't heat up the kitchen.) Yes, they are louder than the Miele dishwasher, but not as loud as the hood. Normal conversation is not an issue. I suspect that the cabinet where it's installed has a lot to do with the noise level. However, as I only have the cabinet in my house to go by, I can't do a cabinet vs. noise comparison. In any case, after the bread comes out of the oven and is placed on the cooling rack, when the oven fans stop it's time to wrap the bread.

I don't have any issues with the display but it is a little sensitive--I have a lot more issues with the Wolf induction touch control, which messes up with damp hands and/or every spill. Note that the oven's display and circuit board are held on with two nuts. Removing the top cover and tightening the nuts should fix any looseness issue. (This is much easier to do before the oven is installed.)

I've never actually tested the temperature. However, it must be okay because I use the temperature setting and cooking time shown in the recipes and the food is done plus or minus five minutes. I believe there is a way to adjust the temperature through the control panel.

I haven’t had any problems and I did check temp with a thermometer since I use the oven for yogurt and jerky.

Thanks so much for your help !!! And opinions greatly appreciate this. I also was floored at install when Bluestar says it requires 6" from side to open, I need to really put that into the design. Which it eats up space as my wall oven goes on the end wall.

The 6 inches are for the handle when fully open. However, it's possible to cheat because you can get a full size sheet in and out as long as the doors open enough to be in line with the sides. Fully open the angle out slightly. Also if the handles go past any obstruction, little space is needed. The handles stick out about 65 mm from the door, and you need a bit more space so you don't bang your knuckles.

In line:

Fully open:

Left side compared to the wall thickness:

Right side:

For those of you who have had your Bluestar French Door Double Wall oven for a couple of years, could you share any feedback with me on reliability, repairs and performance? Also, does that air fryer work? Would like to know before we make a purchase. Thank you.