Problems with contractor "warranty work" - Please Help!
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Comments (15)I'd like to thank everyone for their comments. It's quite obvious to us that since he hasn't shown up since we gave him a date of two weeks to finish the job that he has no intention of finishing it. And I have no intention of letting him keep my money. I do not think that he has completed 1/3 of the work or provided 1/3 of the materials. And if we can't agree on what the amount should be for what he has done, I will take him to court. Or if he does not pay us back in a timely matter I will take him to court. I don't care if it's just 100.00 difference, I don't know why I should eat the costs. If we can agree on an amount and we get our money back I would have to consider that as the matter being resolved and would not report it to the BBB. If not, the lawsuit will show up on the court dockets and that, IMHO, is more damaging than the BBB. I do know that there are many more good contractors than bad. I know we should have checked references more carefully, so shame on us, but having to deal with this is enough punishment!...See Morecontractor change order - please help
Comments (20)I would ask for a copy of the invoice from the disposal company as well as an accounting of the extra labor that was required. Demoing plaster and lathe does take more time than drywall (did they take haz mat precautions for it due to possible lead/asbestos content? That would add time and difficulty to the process.) For frame of reference, we were going to be charged about $1200 extra in labor to remove plaster/lathe in a stairwell, the only part of our remodel that didn't have drywall. We opted to demo that ourselves. Also for frame of reference -- I'm in Seattle, so not sure how the costs compare, but here are some numbers. Our 30 yard dumpster got emptied 13 times, at $120 a pop just for changing out the dumpster for a fresh one, plus a fuel recovery fee of $23 each time. We had two types of loads that went out -- dirt was by the yard (we had a basement partially dug out) and other debris was by the ton. It was $89 per yard or per ton. Aside from dirt, we had about 60 tons of material hauled away, which included drywall, wood framing members that couldn't be reused, some rock, plaster, lathe, pipes, garbage, tiles, old vinyl siding, a set of stairs, cedar siding that was not usable, and lots of chunks of concrete. Reusable stuff (windows, shower stall, bath vanity) got listed on Craigslist. This was from a 1400 sq. ft basement which was about 50% finished, including the floor (half the basement had only dirt and rock floor, the other half had a poor quality slab we had demolished so we could pour a whole new slab). Some smaller loads of debris were taken out by the contractor themselves, and I don't have a separate accounting of that. So -- are the charges legit? They might well be, but your contractor did not handle this well. Change orders should be agreed to in writing before the work is done, although in our case we had a comfortable relationship with the contractor and we were able to OK things verbally or via email and deal with the actual signatures later -- but before any work happened, it was discussed and a price was given so I could make an informed decision. Even if this is a legitimate expense and couldn't have been avoided, this is a good time to push back and put them on notice that they can't screw up the communication like that again. I would let them know that it was not acceptable that they sprang this on you -- if the increase in cost is really due to it being plaster/lathe instead of drywall, they should have known as soon as they started demolition that a big change order would be necessary and they should have warned you at that point. Ask for the paperwork backing up the increase in fees/labor. Unless you are bound by something in the contract that requires you to approve change orders within a certain amount of time, hold onto it and put off signing it until you near the end of the project (assuming you decide it is legit). That should help keep them on their toes (this is a tactic I stole from Amy Johnson's invaluable book, What Your Contractor Can't Tell You -- which you should have a copy of! See link below.) Hope that helps as something to compare to. Good luck with the rest of your remodel. I hope you included wine in your budget for those days when you need it! Here is a link that might be useful: What Your Contractor Can't Tell You...See MoreWarranty Work on Metal Roof Leak Fix
Comments (5)This either falls in punch list work because we have not had final close out payment (negotiating that) or warranty work. As to punch list work, payment is due after the work is corrected. As to warranty work, the contract specifies that the work shall be "free from material structural defects and shall return and repair any work for 1 year" and there are product warranties as well. The contractor must cure the defect "in a manner customary in the industry" or "pay the Owner the cost of the repair or replacement of the defect as estimated by the Contractor" We have to give 45 notice of the defect before filing any claim. I'd say that a leaking roof is a material structural defect. But that brings up a good point, if there is a leak in our plumbing, is that a "structural" defect?...See MoreNew Home warranty work disaster!
Comments (43)In Conclusion... So after all the drama and many return visits to attempt to make the staircase acceptable to us we have reached a final outcome. We had asked to be reimbursed for the full amount of the staircase upgrade, which is significant to us. We had also itemized a list of items that we wanted to replaced as a result from the stain over spray, we had requested funds to cover a thorough duct cleaning, dry cleaning etc.. we had asked for our pavers to be professionally cleaned, and due to excessive visits by the workers from the staircase vendor, I had asked to be compensated for having to use multiple PTO days from work to be available for the many many visits and of course the follow up visits by the painters. During this whole ordeal I had wisely run this issue up the builder executive chain of command to make sure I had the right audience and it paid off they have agreed to everything on my list including a full reimbursement of the staircase option. The only item that was not approved was for my use of pto from work. The builder stated that it is a company policy to not compensate for time off, but did however offer to give us a gift card(s) worth several hundred dollars as a token of good faith. The builder has been on our side from day one and I am very appreciative of that and will accept the gift card offer in lieu of any pto compensation. I had considered that a long shot anyway and I have plenty of pto to use so I'm good with it. I would like to thank you folks that offered advice in handling this issue. It felt good to vent to you guys and your words of support were greatly appreciated. I also am happy that I followed the advice of a few of you to keep an amicable dialog to reach a positive outcome. I think the builder really wanted for us to be happy and the way I treated them with respect went a long way to resolving this. Finally, if anyone but my wife and I walked in our home you would think the staircase looks beautiful now. We know there are still some areas in which we are not happy with but it looks much much better than it did and I am not willing to go through having another one installed. The fact that we are getting the full amount of the upgrade back makes it much more palatable. Thanks again for all the support and advice!! Jim & Sherrie...See Moredoctorvon
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