please update your trade list, there is nothing listed on your trade list; email me your list. Danny

I hear ya garden freak. I decided to change careers right before the economy blew up and went a while without work. I got some okra for you and can probably put a few tomato seeds. If you want shoot me an email with what you want. I have a list of tomato seeds in my trade list, but don't have many of each and some aren't really available anymore. So if any of those heirlooms look good to you, list them and I'll see what I got (3 or 5 seeds worth) for your list. The okra is a kentucky heirloom variety I got with the purchase of my seeds.

"if this doesn't exist, where would you go to buy vegetable seeds in general?" I'm assuming you mean the not-so-unusual veggies. Around here most garden centers at Lowe's, Home Depot, Menards, Walmart, Kmart, etc. carry veggie seeds. They are just beginning to put them out for the season here...still too early at several of the places. Many nurseries/florists also sell seeds in Feb.-May. I've seen more heirloom varieties in stores recently, especially at some upscale nurseries. Whole Foods and other specialty food stores often have small heirloom seed racks in the spring, too. I have no idea what kind of stores you have in Manhattan beyond the big names we see in the news. I've heard of many rooftop gardeners in big cites, though, and am sure somewhere not too far away must sell seeds. I also like to see the seed packs before buying. But sometimes if I really want a particular variety I need to order seeds. I've been pleased with all my seed orders. I think it is bad experiences that people talk about forever, and all the good service is seldom mentioned.

I'm new to this. trying to acquire some free heirloom seeds so I can start my garden and a stock of seeds for trading and to help others trying to get started in organic gardening. Indygardner