Is the (Mo) after your name Missouri? If so, have you tried asking on the Missouri Native Plants group in Facebook? It's a huge group with a number of botanists and ecologists as members. They can ID just about anything.

Yes Mo was for Missouri and thank you for that group's name. I did ask them so waiting for an answer also.

Where are they growing? Your garden? in the wild? And where are you ?

I'm not sure what you have there, and they may or may not be native. I spend most of my time on the Name that Plant Forum, and I know if you post these plants over there you should get quick answers.

They were in the wild and I am at the foothills of Mo.

3 and 4 are Lobelias, perhaps spicata. 1 and 2 look like something in Lamiaceae.

Thank you umbra. Yes that is it. Since last Aug when I posted this I did find the name for it.