Dingo, I have studied the Edmunds and Austin catalogs, but the own root, bare root rose availability, though seen by me, did not register. I believe the deep rooted assumption, since I have been growing roses for just short of 50 years, that bare root roses are always grafted roses, kicked in. Own root container grown roses are still a wonder to me, yet alone own root, bare root roses! Thank you for reinforcing a new concept to me. Rifis, thank you for bringing this to my attention, I did read that and thought it was possibly a misprint. Since the bareroots are primarily grafted on vigorous rootstocks, I thought own root roses were not husky enough to take the fall harvesting, cleaning, and winter cold storage as a, say multiflora rootstock rose can, and be sold as bare root roses, just like grafted roses. Now my question is, "Do they perform as well as container grown roses?"

Lighting is light room no sunlight. heat comes from the top of one of my light buckets where the plant sits on top of a large peak hole. After about a week i'll place the plant inside one of my light buckets. It usually takes 3 or more weeks before the potato roots. Hopefully the kumquat will sprout roots. I will break any shoots from the tomato off. Steve

Trying to grow "disposable gift" miniatures is an exercise in futility, especially in a colder climate. Those things were bred for ONE PURPOSE: to grow fast in a greenhouse environment, bloom quickly and easily, and that's all. They were not bred for hardiness, nor garden performance. Do yourself a favor and buy some miniatures bred for growing in the garden. The named varieties are excellent. Get a plant of 'Rise 'N' Shine', or 'Sequoia Ruby', or 'Sweet Chariot' and you'll see a huge difference in their garden performance. RE Shipping: charging $9.99 to ship a plant is cheap. Have you been to the Post Office recently? Most packages bigger than a VHS box cost at least $10. to ship anywhere. Its just how it is. Its not as if the merchant is trying to rip you off with bloated shipping prices.

Pam knows which zone I'm in and JC is marketed for zone 5. I sent her an email and asked her which root stock JC has. I don't believe she does the grafting. She gets these from the Austin nursery in Texas already grafted. I'll let you know what root stock it has when she replies. Here is what she said about all this in an email yesterday after I first told her I didn't want JC because it was grafted, then I changed my mind and said I would give it a try and sent that email out to her.. She grows all own root herself and preaches that own root is much better, she is also completely organic. So, here is her reply to me about grafting. " Well, that's funny as I was just going to send you a "lecture" on the benefits of grafted roses in SOME cases. Many roses are too weak and too slow and too hard to root from cuttings. Jubilee Celebration is a case in point. Although All rose societies say the opposite of what I am going to tell you, David Austin and ALL of EUROPE plants their budded (grafted) roses UNDER the soil with the intention that the SCION, the one on top WILL put down roots of it's own because it is allowed to be under the soil. We're talking 3-5 inches below the graft in cold climates (where the bud union tends to freeze and die) and 2-3 inches deep in warmer climates like mine. Within a year or two the graft will die away and the rose shoots out a whole new bunch of basal roots and Vualla! You now have an own root rose that started out large instead of puny! The best of both worlds. All of Europe and DA are not crazy. You even get less suckers and less disease. I have not tuned into Fraser's talks (maybe once) but Very few rosarians even know about this. It's really amazing. So that being said, feel good that all will be well and I will leave your name on one."