Thank you Vera for all the information I surely do appreciate it. I'm up when the dawn breaks and don't get home til' the cow's come in..way past darkness... Hopefully temporary..This working with no end in site suck's the big one so far I've been working 8 a.m - 7 -8.p.m with no end in site and it really does suck. The only time I see my flower's is in the early morning's. +argh+!! Well whould'a guessed over 1/2 my crew quit under the new bosse's standard's?!. Now I just have to get myself a new crew!! +sigh+ When they finally hire some newbie's Ill be so happy maybe I'll get to go home before 15 hour's!! Whoo Hoo!! My day today was 8 a.m. to 7:20 p.m. today.. and that has been my average day so far this suck's!! O.K. I'm whining forgive me sorry ~ I'm just grumpy and out of sort's right now.. Man I need a vacation!! Barb

I have the new Hoya book. I'm going to be completely honest about it, so please don't shoot me down. Because of the ridiculous dollar to pound exchange rate, the amount the book cost me is probably about 3/4 of what you guys will pay for said book. I am enjoying the book (well I love reading about hoyas, so that makes sense). However because part of my job involves spotting mistakes in the text, I get quite annoyed at the endless typos and errors left in. I respect Anne and Dale but I feel that by trying to leave as much of Dale's writing creates sections that are either completely irrelevant or sentences that refer to a picture that was obviously in the previous book that did not make it into this book. Also, a lot of the plant photos are out of focus. If you're trying to compare a plant that may not have flowered yet (even given that the identities of some of the hoyas may be incorrect) with a blurry photo, it's not going to help you much. However, I have learnt about the anatomy of the hoya flower and the different names for the shape of the leaf, and that has been very helpful. And I'm still enjoying it, even if I am taking it with a pinch of salt. Hope that helps, Hills

Well, this is a bit off the subject, but, when i was a kid of ten or so, my Dad and Grand-father would take me and my brother on a camping trip, up to Pymatuning Reservoir, in North-western Pennsylvania, for a week of fishing and row-boating, and seeing the sights. (This was around 1933 to 1940.) We had two old WW I Army tents, and cots, blankets, a gasoline stove, cooking utensils, plates, etc. We didn't have an ice chest. My Dad would dig a hole in the creek bank, and we'd keep the perishables there, in the cool water, in a bucket, with a lid. We'd rent a row-boat, and Daddy and me and my younger Brother would go out on the lake and fish. We'd spend a week there, and had lots of fun. We'd turn in at dusk, since we didn't have a big lantern. One night, there was a great commotion outside our tent, and the head-lights of our car were shining into our tent and the horn was blowing loudly! (Around 3 a.m!) I awoke, and asked what was happening. Daddy shouted:"There are skunks in your tent"! Uh-Oh!? "Be very still"! I didn't move, and could hear rustling under my brother's cot, so i managed a peek. And there were two skunks worrying an old half empty can of fish-bait! WOO-HOO! Well, they finally "licked the platter clean", so to say, and ran off. Daddy finally quit blowing the horn, and it all cooled down then. Also, when my wife and i went up to Hammonasset State park, in connecticut, we set up the camper, then went in to town to buy some groceries. As we drove back into the park, we saw 3 skunks walking into a tent that was set up nearby. We watched to see if anybody came running out, but no one did. Then, a car pulled in and four girls got out and started for the tent!! I hollered and told them about the skunks---woo-hoo, they hollered, ran out, got into their car and drove madly away! Don't know if they ever came back! Hammonasset was a nice park to visit. We went there several times. It was close to where our son lived. We went there one 4th. of July when the holiday fell on a Saturday. This was on Wednesday. the park management said we could camp there, if we left on Thursday, as the weekenders would need the space. We agreed, and we left.

Don't worry. It's a glitch on houzz, not you.