Superthrive
lucillle
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Comments (12)I'm very leery of products that contain anything which have had hormones used in their growth process. Case in point: Larry and I are veteran dog breeders, and we're very careful of the nutrition our dogs receive. We make our own feed, actually. My Olde Bulldogge, Maia, has been fed our natural feed since she was conceived; her mother was fed our feed exclusively before and during her pregnancy and subsequent lactation. Maia's body is toxin-free, and free of any preservatives or growth hormones or any other chemical used in the manufacture of commercial pet feeds. Several months ago, we ran out of a couple of ingredients needed to mix our home made feed, so I was forced to feed Maia commercial kibble for about 3 or 4 days... I noticed that her mammary glands swelled up, and most unevenly... a few on her left side, one or two on her right... and her energy level and attitude underwent small changes, as did her digestion, which I expected. She acted nervous, and just wasn't her usual self. I immediately stopped feeding her the kibble, and we got in the necessary ingredients to mix our own feed, which she was put back on. Within a few days, her mammary glands were back to normal, which is flat and tight against her body, since she has never given birth or had reason to use them. The mammary gland swelling freaked me out! She's a very young dog, and has only gone through one heat cycle! There's no other explanation that we can find, other than the meat products in the kibble, which I would bet contain growth hormones, and since she was not used to ingesting the chemicals contained in the kibble, her body reacted. When commercial pet feeds are made, the ingredients can be anything. There's no real government regulation on pet feeds, so everything gets ground up together, and it's termed "meat by-product". This can mean animals that died with any type of drug or medication in their systems, including (but not limited to) antibiotics, growth hormones, drugs used to euthanize, etc... and then there are the fillers and preservatives... BHT, ethoxyquin, beet pulp, and in some rare cases, sawdust. I won't even go further! The crude protein mentioned on the label does not specify the actual source, so there's no way to tell what what used. Getting back to plants... I definitely think growth hormones can help boost plant growth. While I prefer to garden naturally, using composted manures and manure teas, I think adding vitamins and hormones in small amounts to potted plants can be beneficial. I haven't thoroughly read the label on the Superthrive bottle, but I do know it contains vitamins and hormones. I'd like to do an experiment with a control plant and a Superthrive fed plant, but I don't have any seedlings I could use at the moment. I can, however, plant a few wayward hipeastrum seeds that I have leftover from this past season... it might be fun and interesting to see if this stuff really works! What I can say for certain is that feeding my dogs a natural diet, free from any chemicals or fillers, makes a marked difference in growth, health, and even in personality/attitude/behavior... I'm willing to bet that it plays a role in longevity, as well....See MoreSuperthrive is still Superthrive for the record!
Comments (5)Oh my gosh! Did they get that idea from my post, where my point was that anyone who confused Superthrive with superphosphate was someone I would not trust with a hoya i.d.??! Ack!! No, superphosphate and Superthrive are *not* the same thing!!! I think superphosphate is just what it sounds like--a concentrated form of phosphorous (mine is granular), and Superthrive is the brand name of a vitamin/growth stimulating supplement that comes in a little brown bottle. Not to be confused with Superman or Superglue either! Please donÂt misunderstand and put superglue on your plants, either!! Not the same! *Not*!!!...See MoreSuperthrive, is it worth it?
Comments (6)Just stumbled on this thread via Google while searching for one of my other posts. I know the thread is old, but here's an article I wrote. It was published in Stemma, a now defunct online journal about Hoyas, in case you have interest. Superthrive or Superjive? The question regarding the value of Superthrive as a miracle tonic for plants is often bandied about in horticultural circles. Over the years, I had read claims that ranged from, “I put it on my plant, which had never bloomed, and it was in full bloom the next day.” to, “It was dead - I put Superthrive on it and the next day it was alive and beautiful, growing better than it ever had before.” I decided to find out for myself. If you look for information on the net, you will probably only find the manufacturer’s claims and anecdotal observations, both so in want of anything that resembles a control. Though my experiments were far from purely scientific, I tried to keep some loose controls in place so that I could make a fair judgment of its value, based my own observations. Here is what I did, what I found, and the conclusions I made about any value the product Superthrive might hold for me. On four separate occasions, I took multiple cuttings of plants in four different genera. In each case the group of cuttings were taken from the same individual plant to reduce genetic variance. The plant materials I used were: Ficus benjamina, (a tropical weeping fig) Luna apiculata (Peruvian myrtle), Chaenorrhinum minus (a dwarf snapdragon), and an unknown variety of Coleus. In each instance, I prepared cuttings from the same plant and inserted them in a very fast, sterile soil. The containers containing half of the cuttings were immersed/soaked in a Superthrive solution of approximately 1/2 tsp per gallon of water to the upper soil line. The other half of the cuttings were watered in with water only. In subsequent waterings, I would water the “Superthrive batch” of cuttings with a solution of 10 drops per gallon and the others with only water. The same fertilizer regimen was followed on both groups of cuttings. In all four instances, the cuttings that I used Superthrive on rooted and showed new growth first. For this reason, it follows that they would naturally exhibit better development, though I could see no difference in overall vitality, once rooted. I can also say that a slightly higher percentage of cuttings rooted that were treated with the Superthrive treatment at the outset. I suspect that is directly related to the effects of the auxin in Superthrive hastening initiation of root primordia before potential vascular connections were destroyed by rot causing organisms. In particular, something I looked for because of my affinity for a compact form in plants was branch (stem) extension. (The writer is a bonsai practitioner.) Though the cuttings treated with Superthrive rooted sooner, they exhibited the same amount of branch extension. In other words, internode length was approximately equal and no difference in leaf size was noted. As a second part to each of my “experiments”, I divided the group of cuttings that had not been treated with Superthrive into two groups. One of the groups remained on the water/fertilizer only program, while the other group was treated to an additional 10 drops of Superthrive in each gallon of fertilizer solution. Again, the fertilizer regimen was the same for both groups. By summer’s end, I could detect no difference in bio-mass or vitality between the two groups of plants. Since I replicated the above experiment in four different trials, using four different plant materials, I am quite comfortable in drawing some conclusions as they apply to me and my growing habits or abilities. First, and based on my observations, I have concluded that Superthrive does hold value for me as a rooting aid, or stimulant if you prefer. I regularly soak the soil, usually overnight, of my newly root-pruned and often bare-rooted repots in a solution of 1/2 tsp Superthrive per gallon of water. Second, and also based on my observations, I no longer bother with its use at any time other than at repotting. No evidence was accumulated through the 4 trials to convince me that Superthrive was of any value as a “tonic” for plants with roots that were beyond the initiation or recovery stage. Interestingly, the first ingredient listed as being beneficial to plants on the Superthrive label is vitamin B-1 (or thiamine). Growing plants are able to synthesize their own vitamin B-1 as do many of the fungi and bacteria having relationships with plant roots, so it's extremely doubtful that vitamin B-1 could be deficient in soils or that a growing plant could exhibit a vitamin B-1 deficiency. Some will note that I used more of the product than suggested on the container. I wanted to see if any unwanted effects surfaced as well as trying to be sure there was ample opportunity for clear delineation between the groups. I suspect that if a more dilute solution was used, the difference between groups would have been even less clear. It might be worth noting that since the product contains the growth regulator (hormone) auxin, its overuse can cause defoliation, at least in dicots. The broad-leaf weed killer Weed-B-Gone and the infamous “Agent Orange“, a defoliant that saw widespread use in Viet Nam, are little more than synthetic auxin. Al...See MoreHelp! Dyna-Gro VS. Osmocote VS. SuperThrive
Comments (1)Dyna-Gro has the best all around N-P-K ratio as well as micro nutrients and is the choice of many. tj...See Morezack_lau z6 CT ARS Consulting Rosarian
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