Miracle on the Hudson rose...
Hi all,
I planted this 1 gallon own root Miracle on the Hudson mid June of last year...Single rose but semi double in cooler weather...
First two blooms of 2017... Deep red color...Semi Double at 70 degrees...No scent... Blooms 3 3/4"
I helped out with a flooded area in our state last year and was given this rose as a gift by a women we helped that had severe damage... So it means a lot to me...:-)
Its been very disease resistant so far...
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoMOTH very recent pic...Loaded with buds though...
TODAYS PICs
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoMOTH is starting into its 3rd flush right now
HERE is MOTH today...August 17th 2018
AUGUST 19,2018
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoAugust 21,2018...3rd flush
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoCouple photos of MOTH I took today...
Bees like MOTH...
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
5 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
5 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
5 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoMOTH faired well this winter...But I still cut it to ground level at beginning of April to give it a renewal and to see if it still has vigor...Yep it does...lol
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years ago
Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years ago
Susan T
4 years agoYou all have such lovely MOTH plants so I thought you would be able to answer my question when Google has failed me. I just planted 2 new MOTHs about a week ago. They were filled with buds, and now the first flowers are spent. I'm in zone 6b.
Should I deadhead? as each flower falls or wait until they're all spent? do I just cut off the dried up flowers or cut to a 5 leaf node? I'm worried about stressing them because I broke a lot of roots during transplant, though they perked up with some water.
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoI dead head when flowers are spent. But with this rose bush (I deadhead blooms only...cut right underneath spent blooms...) If you cut to 5 leaflet you will not get as many blooms...
I walk the yard daily cutting MOTH and other roses spent blooms off... I never wait until they are all spent.
By the way! Your MOTH's looks great Susan T !
Our MOTH is getting ready to bloom soon...Loaded with buds...
Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
4 years ago
cyndita (west coast zone 9)
4 years ago
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
4 years agonanadollZ7 SWIdaho
4 years agoSusan T
4 years agoSusan T
4 years agoDo any of you experts know why my MOTHs have slightly changed color over a few days? all of the flower buds that are blooming now were on the plants when I bought them... they were more of a true red, but starting yesterday, I noticed that they are now more magenta-wine color. of course, the camera is making the color a little brighter than IRL, but I've attached After and Before photos taken with the same device..
I amended the soil with worm castings (maybe on the heavy side) and miracle gro's Nature's Care compost, and a little vermiculite and growstones to help aerate and prevent compaction. I live near the ocean and very close to a salt marsh so my soil is heavy and a little Sandy.
The weather has been notably colder -50's and low 60s - during the day and mostly cloudy. we've experienced bouts of heavy and light rain.
Any ideas as to why this happened?
Susan T
4 years agoSusan T
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4 years agolast modified: 4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoSusan T
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoOk Susan... Our MOTH is getting ready to start blooming here real soon!
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoFirst bloom of season on our MOTH ....
LATER
Cut to ground level in Early April...(My choice) did not need it..)
Today:
Susan T
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoThanks Susan T!
Cool today here about 54-60 degrees.....
Susan T
4 years agoyour roses are absolutely gorgeous, Jim! mine went back to red, but you can really see the difference in color in these photos.
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
4 years agolast modified: 4 years ago
Susan right or wrong I blame tissue culture. I picked up a MOTH last spring because it was pinkish. Definitely different than the others and the blooms had just opened so not faded. It didn’t cost much and if it stayed that color I had a spot for it. In about a month it turned red. It gets moved tomorrow.Jim here’s my two MOTHs from today. This is the third season for both of them.
Perhaps this will be the year that they grow. I just checked and this is their 4th year. Pic is in the wrong spot but at least it is showing.
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoOur MOTH doing very well this year...No complaints...
Today
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoMOTH starting its 3rd flush of the season...I usually get 4 full flushes and a start to a 5th flush in October...
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoMOTH today Aug 14th
August 18
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoMiracle on the Hudson has done very well this year...Starting its 4th flush and its leaves still look Springtime fresh... I'm very Happy with this no spray rose here in our climate...
Today
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoMoth in its 4th flush...Sept. 25th 2019
Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
4 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoYes it has some fragrance here..Yep...
Here it is today... October 10, 2019...
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
4 years agoOct 17, 2019
MOTH today...We had nightly light frosts were awhile now but MOTH since chugin along...
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