Belleville: Yes, they're self tapping with fender washers. There are no groves or channels in the Rion to hold the green things Charlie sells. It was the screws or nothing. I had to do some taping around the doors and vents. Duct tape to the rescue. :) justplaindon: How on earth did you fit so many (hundreds?) orchids in your 25' Rion and where did you get them all from? This is your list (below) correct? I couldn't fit anywhere near that many plants in mine. Are they all small "seedlings?" Orchids Species Arundina bambusifolia Barkeria lindleyana Barkeria scandens Barkeria spectablis Brassavola acaulis Brassavola cucullata Brassavola glauca Brassavola nodosa Brassavola digbyana Broughtonia sanguinea Broughtonia sanguinea Star Splash' Bulbophyllum echinolabium Cattleya eldorado var. magenta Cattleya delosa Cattleya guttata var alba Cattleya quadricolor Cattleya schroderae Cattleya leopoldii ÂDark Prince' Cattleya deckeri Cattleya bicolor Cattleya lueddemanniana Cattleya porphyroglossa Cattleya mossaie ÂReineckiana' Cattleya violacea Cattleya skinneri ÂHeiti Jacobs' Cattleya forbesii Cattleya walkeriana ÂHonolulu Blue' Cattleya jenmanii Cattleya warnerii Cattleya dowiana ÂRosita' Cattleya trianaei Cattleya harrisoniana ÂGiganta' Cattleya percivaliana  Summit ' Cattleya maxima var coerulea Cattleya intermedia var sanguinea Cattleyopsis cubensis Caularthron bicornutum Dimeranda emarginata Dimeranda stenopetalatum Encyclia cochleata Epidendrum calanthum Epidendrum ilense Epidendrum secundum (rose form) Epidendrum cinnabarinum Epidendrum nocturnum Epidendrum radicans aurea variegata Epidendrum ciliare Goodyeara pubescens Isabelia pulchella Isochilus linearis Laelia anceps Laelia anceps 'alba' Laelia fidelensis Laelia lobata Laelia mantiqueira Laelia milleri Laelia perrinii Laelia praestans Laelia pumila ÂHaiku' Laelia purpurata Leptotes bicolor Meiracyllium trinasutum Myrmecophila brysiana Nanodes schlechterianum Oerstedella wallisii Pleurothallis gargantua Pleurothallis sandemanii Pseudolaelia corcovadensis Psychopsis papilio var aurea Schomburgkia schultzei Schomburgkia exaltata Schomburgkia humboldtii Schomburkia tibicinis Sobralia dichotoma Sobralia decora Sobralia tricolor Sophronitella violacea Sophronitis wittigiana Sophronitis cernua Tetramicra canaliculata Trichoglottis brachiata Vanilla planifolia Hybrids Brassada Orange Delight ÂStarbek' Brassavola David Sanders Brassocattleya Moon Miss ÂLunar Dawn' Brassocattleya Maikai ÂMayumi' Brassocattleya Mrs. J Leeman Brassolaeliocattleya Crowfield ÂMendenhall' Brassolaeliocattleya (Toshie Akoi x Waianae King) Brassolaeliocattleya CHIA LIN  New York City ' Brassolaeliocattleya Toshie Akoi ÂCarmela' Brassolaeliocattleya Lake Murray ÂMendenhall' Brassolaeliocattleya Mary Agnes Chase Brassolaeliocattleya (Blc William Stewart x Lc. Mini Purple) Brassolaeliocattleya Hawaiian Leopard ÂMei Ling' Brassolaeliocattleya Good News  Hawaii ' Brassolaeliocattleya Rugeley's Mill ÂMendenhall' Brassolaeliocattleya George King ÂSerendipity' Brassolaeliocattleya Haadyai Delight ÂBangprom Gold' Brassolaeliocattleya (Lc. Royal Emperor x Blc. War Chant) Brassolaeliocattleya Lady's Favorite ÂMorning Mist' Brassolaeliocattleya King of Taiwan ÂDa Shin' Brassolaeliocattleya Cherry Suisse ÂKauai' Brassolaeliocattleya Mahina Yahiro Brassolaeliocattleya ( Oconee x Splendor Gaylark)x(Esbetts x Cornerstone) Brassolaeliocattleya Chunyeah ÂC.U. #2' Brassolaeliocattleya Chyong Guu Chaffinch ÂTa-Hsin' Brassolaeliocattleya Ronald's Canyon ÂKoko Head' Brassolaeliocattleya Marcella Koss Brassolaeliocattleya Ann Cleo ÂStars & Stripes' Brassolaeliocattleya (Portage Glacier x Persepolis) ÂCarmela' Brassolaeliocattleya unk. Brassolaeliocattleya Tainan Gold ÂGolden Sparrow' Brassolaeliocattleya Fort Watson ÂMendenhall' Brassolaeliocattleya Hillary Rodham Clinton ÂCarmela' Brassolaeliocattleya (Pokai Tangerine x Chocolate Sun) Brassolaeliocattleya Dr. Joe Walker ÂRay Mishima' Brassolaeliocattleya Hunabu Victory ÂBrenda Havenor' Brassolaeliocattleya Hawaiian Wahine ÂCarmela' Brassolaeliocattleya Haiku Gold ÂPauwela' Brassolaeliocattleya Pamela Finney ÂBig Bull' Brassolaeliocattleya Mac Holmes Newberry Brassolaeliocattleya Burdekin Wonder ÂLake land' Brassolaeliocattleya Mary Ellen Carter ÂDixie Hummingbird' Brassolaeliocattleya (Lc. Mini Purple x Blc. Lucky Man) Brassolaeliocattleya (Red Empress x Blc. Mem. Crispin Rosales) 'Lakeview' Brassolaeliocattleya Oconee 'Mendenhall' Brassolaeliocattleya Lawless Romeo ÂJuliet' Bromecanthe Garnet Glory Broughtonia Jamaicensis Broughtonia negrilensis x Laelia crawshayana Bulbophyllum Wilbur Chang Burrageara Pacific Command Cattleya (C Porcia x C walkeriana) Cattleya Bob Betts  York ' Cattleya Chocolate Drop ÂKodama' Cattleya Rembrandt Cattleya Bactia Cattleya Louis Chaton Cattleya Old Forester ÂMt. Diablo' Cattleya Belairensis Cattleya (Hawaiian Wedding Song x self) Cattleychea Siam Jade ÂAvo' Cattleytonia Jamaica Red ÂSentinel' Cattleytonia Why Not Cookara Tropical Snowflake 'H & R' Degarmoara Mem. Jay Yamada  Kauai #2' Dendrobium Oriental Smile 'Fantasy' Diacattleya Chantilly Lace ÂTwinkle' Dialaelia Mizoguchi Cloudcover Dialaeliocattleya Zesty ÂPuanani' Encyclia Ginger Snaps Encyclia Atropine Epicattleya Guarionex Utuado Epc. Siam Jade 'AVO' Epidendrum Star Valley ÂViolet Queen' Epidendrum (medusae x porphyreum) Epidendrum Shizuno Muraoka ÂClear Yellow Sun' Epidendrum (Hokulea x Pretty Princess) Epilaeliocattleya Orange Crush Epilaeliocattleya Charlie Brown  Hawaii ' Epilaeliocattleya Don Herman ÂSpots' Epilaeliocattleya Haiku Twinkle ÂRed Elf' Epiphronitis Veitchii Âvariegata' Epiphronitis Veitchii Fergusonara (Potinara William Farrel x Schomburgkia glorios) Hasegawaara Fantasia ÂDelight' Hawkinsara Koolau Sunset Hawkinsara Red Devil ÂKosaki' Iwanagaara Apple Blossom ÂNalo' Kirchara Emily Ruth ÂLa Selva' Kirchara Tropical Jewel ÂHihimanu' Laelia Pacavia Laeliocatanthe Living Gewer (probably Jewel) Laeliocattleya Ahmad Sheiki ÂMendenhall' Laeliocattleya Gold Digger ÂFuch's Mandarin' Laeliocattleya Fire Dance ÂPatricia' Laeliocattleya S. J. Bracey ÂWaiolani' Laeliocattleya Gold Digger Laeliocattleya Luminosa Laeliocattleya Sheila Lauterbach ÂEquilab' Laeliocattleya Dinard Blue Heaven Laeliocattleya Gaskell-Pumila ÂAzure Star' Laeliocattleya Bonaza Queen Laeliocattleya Orizaba Laeliocattleya Mini Purple ÂSato' Laeliocattleya Melody Fair ÂCarol' Laeliocattleya Shirayukime ÂSanwa' Laeliocattleya Schilleriana Laeliocattleya (C. triannae x L. kennedyii) Lyonarci (Lc. Coastal Splendor x Schomb. undulata) Mantinara Don Herman Miltassia Royal Robe ÂJerry's Pick' Miltassia Aztec Nalo Otaara (Otaara Jane Fumiye x Broughtonia jamaicensis) Otaara Jane Fumiye Hawaii Paphinia Majestic Paphiopedilum Dollgoldi Paphiopedilum (Graham Robertson x (Ruby Peacock x Voodoo Magic)) Paphiopedilum (Black Rook x Infrared) Paphiopedilum Delrosi Paphiopedilum (Hsinying Ruma x Shadow 'Master') Phaiocalanthe Kryptonite ÂChariots of Fire' Phragmipedium Sargent Eric Potinara Afternoon Delight 'Magnetism' Potinara Haw Yuan Gold ÂYK #2' Potinara DiCiommo's Rainbow ÂWaiomao's Satin' Potinara Hawaiian Option Potinara Ching Hua Flame ÂRed Rose' Potinara Satoru Toshima  Lake View ' Potinara Shinfong Beauty ÂTai young #88' Potinara (Lc. Koolua Seagulls X Pot. Aloha Mishima) Potinara Susan Fender ÂCinnamon Stick' Potinara Hawaiian Charisma ÂHilo Beauty' Psychopsis Mendenhall ÂHildos' Schombocattleya Louise Fuchs Schombocattleya (Schomburkia. splendida x Lc. Frosty Pink 'H & R' ) Schombocattleya (C. violacea x Schomb. tibicinis) Schombocattleya (C. Lulu x Schomb. brysiana) Schombocattleya (Schom. brysiana x C. percivaliana 'El Hati') Schombocattleya Cinnamon Tower Schombocattleya (Myrmecophila tibicinis x Cattleya forbesii) Schombocattleya (Schomb. humboltii alba X C. Wendy Patterson) Schombolaelia Monte Bello Schombolaeliocattleya (Schomb. undulata X Lc. Costal Splendor) Sophrocattleya Carol Lynn Sophrolaeliocattleya (C. Mrs. Mahler x Slc. Tiny Titan) Sophrolaeliocattleya Jewelers Art ÂWaiomao Plum' Sophrolaeliocattleya Love Castle 'KURENAI' Sophrolaeliocattleya (Lc Brierley's Ferry x Slc Vatlezac) Sophrolaeliocattleya Brass Town ÂLipstick' Sophrolaeliocattleya Misty Girl ÂAutumn Symphony' Sophrolaeliocattleya George Hausermann  York ' Sophrolaeliocattleya Jewel Box ÂScheherazade' (Tetramica canaliculata x Psychilis krugii) Tolumnia Popoki ÂMitzi' Yahiroara Caribbean Beauty Other Plant Families Blood orange tree Guava tree Fig tree ("Violet de Bordeaux"/ not zone 7 hardy but really good figs) Croton (sent to my family when my grandmother died in 1984 - cut back repeatedly to limit size) Tropical Hibiscus (variegated foliage/red blooms) Tropical Gingers Variegated Shampoo Ginger ( Zingiber zerumbet Darcyi ) Red Bamboo Ginger (Costus stenophyllus) Tropical ferns (including a staghorn fern) Tropical Passionfruit (red flowers) Brugmansia (peach/salmon color blooms)

There's nothing quite as cool-looking(temperaturewise) as BLUE flowers. I grew Phacelia a few years ago, best blue i ever saw, next to cornflowers. The bell-shaped blue flowers with icy-white anthers were beautiful, and stirred up images of cooler weather. They do have a short bloom time, hot weather just about stops the show, cutting back helps somewhat. Give 'em a try, i believe there are 2 or 3 varieties. Good luck, and enjoy.

Teresa, Thanks for catching that. No! it is bone dry. I've been out since 8 cleaning out gardens and when I got tired mid-afternoon I did that look-up to justify sitting my 60-year-old bones down for a good rest. My gosh, what a luxury to have a) a spring weekday off and b) beautiful gorgeous perfect weather to work in the yard and c) promise of rain tomorrow. ;-) --MH

Thanks for posting the plans in the thread! (I still don't know which way is 'north' though.) Our MBR-Closets-Bath configuration might work for you by using the whole rectangle. You'd need to put your mini-office elsewhere (perhaps work room). That's a very tiny room anyway; would a wall unit serve? Our MBR is at the bottom of a rectangle (like yours). The bath is at the top. There is a short hall between MBR and bath. On either side of the hall are walk-in closets with pocket doors (virtually always left open). There is a door at the end of the hall into the bathroom. The sinks are on each side of the doorway into the bath, with the toilet room, tub and shower in a row at the top of the rectangle. I access my closets more often than the bathroom and I like the buffer between BR and bath. Closets don't need windows; bathrooms benefit from them. Porch: If you use the covered porch for table and chairs, the middle portion would suffice for just chairs. I'm concerned about making the interior rooms too dark. We have skylights in the east angle of our porch roof to keep the interior rooms light in winter. Will you never have guests? Always eat at a counter? DH and I spend a lot of time around the 'kitchen' table three times a day. But then, we read in the 'LR' and watch TV in the 'library'. LOL Jill -- I was seeing people come in the side door at the rear of the house to use the shower bath. I asked about the work room. If it does have a closet and opens into the house proper it could be a BR -- useful for resale.