Chances are that they are super complex. In which case their rest and chill requirements have dissipated in the intricate web of genetics they now have (which have probably been intended to by-pass these requirements). If you must know, you could do a bit more research and find the cross make up. Keep going until you get to a primary cross and make a tree, do some math and figure out how much biggibum or phalaenopsis is in each and how much you think it matters after you figure it all out.

Clay is nasty. I have been improving my adobe over time. I think my older beardeds performed because I only gave them an overnight soak when the top 6 inches of soil dried. I had prepared the 1st bed by spading in 2 inches of compost down about 12 inches (16inches would have been better). Our adobe holds the nutrients which is the good news. And throughout the year I spade in kitchen compost in any available spot. My hybrid tea roses don't mind the clay one bit and they get their soaking at the same time as the beardeds planted with them. It's a good combo. Many succulents, not all, will take more drought than beardeds. Gravel in clay soil doesn't really create good drainage. Organic matter is the best. But not peat in clay soils! Dead leaves I love. But they break down fast. If I could find nitrogen reinforced sawdust again I'd be a happy camper. It breaks down slower and therefore keeps the soil looser plus helps counteract our alkalinity. Everytime you dig you're creating air pockets. Roots like oxygen. Oh, containers & tall beardeds. A barrel half would work. Those rhizomes like to travel :-) The dwarf beardeds can take a smaller container. They would love your cold winters. Regular feeding is necessary as nutrients wash out of pots.

Thank you all for your many suggestions of type of info available and where to look. Would any of you be willing to speculate what might be going on in the following situation: A major developer bought a parcel of land for a major development (several hundred single family homes, some multi family units and rec facilities.) A gravel road to the parcel had a couple homes on it The developer is currently putting in the roads for the development and has paved the gravel road. This road will be the entrance to the development. The developer has recently bought (for about 150,000) and torn down one of the existing houses. The other existing house has been on the market for over a year (listed for 160,000 for a year reduced to 130,000 a few months ago). In speaking to the listing agent he said the developer had made a verbal offer in the past but never followed through on a written offer. I do not understand given they bought and tore down the house across the street for close to the original listing price of this house why they aren't buying this house. Any ideas why the developer is not buying this house or of a way to find out?

I'm in Oceanside Cali,and i saw a hibiscus bush last week that was covered in whitefly.I was just driving by and it caught my eye.When i go out again,and it won't be today,i'll check to see if it's still there and get back to you,via this post. I grow a lot of hibiscus,but we keep the bugs under control on ours. Kathi