Thanks everyone! Well.. according to my records, I got OJ from Armstrong Nurseries in 2001. Must've been that one yr they offered mail order. I originally got an own-root one from Muriel Humenick in the 90s, back when I was active in the Butte Rose Society. We used to take treks down to Sac a lot to go to seminars and then go visit Michael Fischer at Michael's Premier Roses. I miss those days. We'd hang out with Muriel and Baldo Vellegas and all the other great people from the Sac Rose Societies. Anyway... Muriel had a lot of unusual roses she'd sell. I got one from her and obviously must've lost it. That's apparently why I then got one from Armstrong. OJ is not a rose in commerce anymore. It was barely in commerce back then. Very difficult to find. I guess that's another one I need to propagate or get some cuttings to one of the suppliers. It's a beautiful pure orange floribunda that grows about 3ftx2ft and has decent repeat. If anyone is near an Armstrong Nursery, you might go check and see if they still offer it. I kinda doubt it tho. But you never can tell. They had a lot of semi-exclusive varieties, many of which were Christensen ones. Unfortunately, those nurseries are not up this far north.