bungeana - to single stem or not to single stem - that is the question
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Single stem vs. unpruned tomatoes
Comments (11)and 4 tomato plants that grow with 1 stem in 1 sqft each You would not have 1 sq. foot each. The minimum recommendation for even a single stem plant is 2 sq. foot. So the comparison would be 2 plants (not 4) vs. 1 plant and the 1 unpruned plant would still win the production challenge. Again, as I suggested above, this is frequently discussed over on the Growing Tomatoes forum and many of those discussions include links to documented studies done on this very question rather than just personal opinions. Please understand that much of the pruning done by its advocates is for aesthetic reasons only, for appearance, for garden eye-appeal, and for convenience for the gardener. It is not done for the benefit of the plant or for production, They may live in a climate where sunscald of exposed fruit is not an issue. For you, and for us in the south, sunscald of exposed fruit is a very real problem. And given the predominance of some of the diseases we in hot climates have to deal with, the health of the plant so it can better resist those disease is vital. Drastically reduce the photosynthesis ability of the plant by pruning it aggressively can easily reduce its over-all health. That is a lesson many of us have had to learn the hard way over many years. A caged or staked or trellised plant grown in the proper spacing can still be lightly pruned as needed - any branches that touch the ground, any large leaflet branches that block access to the fruit can be trimmed back or removed, and late season sprouting suckers or bloom rellis can be pinched off, etc. But that in no way justifies radical pruning. Dave This post was edited by digdirt on Thu, Jan 23, 14 at 11:57...See Moresingle stem summersweet
Comments (1)Wait for it to sucker and otherwise enlarge on its own. Top pruning decreases overall size increase of shrubs, if you want more top do not cut back. People think whacking shrubs back makes them grow more because it often causes them to fork at the point where they are cut, and because replacement sprouts tend to be vigorous (unless plant is in too poor of condition to grow much even when attacked). But the total volume of added growth is less after pruning than if same specimen was not pruned....See MoreTomatoes in SFG- should I prune to single-stem?
Comments (26)Posted by bodica 9/N.CA (My Page) on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 12:40 ........................................... Seysonn, isn't sub-irrigation in support of your root ball size, if the plant is getting the nutrients and moisture it requires, it's roots have no stimulation to search wider and deeper? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Yes, that is what I said. In nature thing pick the path of Least Resistance ( Easy route) . That is also true about plants. For, example, if they can get what they need (moisture and nutrients) in a shallow layer of soil, why bother to grow deep roots ?. We have heard that the experienced gardener will say : Water deep well and less often, instead of watering shallow and more often. So if you keep a plant thirsty and hungry (relatively) it will grow more roots, deeper roots, expanded roots in order to compensate for what is lacking. Where do the plants get raw material to grow fruits ? Soil ? NOT SO. Soil is just a medium where the moisture and nutrients are held/kept/stored. Dose the volume of soil matter? Yes it does, to some extent. Beyond certain amount soil volume will become useless. Obviously a 5 gal. soil volume is better than 1 gal. 10 gal. is better than 5 gal. But IS 20gal. BETTER THAN 10gal?. OR is 40gal better than 20gal. ? Probably not, according to the law of Diminishing Returns it will become a waste of the resources at some point. The same applies to in ground spacing. Actually wider spacing is mostly to accommodate top management and for the convenience of the gardener. Back to topic: So to me, the concept of SFG is fundamentally a good concept . That is why they have different land/bed space requirements for different plant types. Most peppers might do fine in ONE square foot, but some tomatoes will need about 3 times as much area (21" x 21" = 3 sqr-ft)....See MoreSingle-Stemmed Forb With Cupped Leaves?
Comments (2)I agree. The clasping leaves and the one emerging bud I can see point to Triodanis , possibly T. perfoliata....See Moredavidrt28 (zone 7)
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