Advice for tuning up my fruit trees & grape vines
J H
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Comments (18)Kraken, I'm not an attorney, but from what I understand having bought and sold many homes in my lifetime, is that some types of plants are considered real property and other types of plants are considered personal property (mainly producing annuals, like vegetable plants, and the production of those plants are personal property.) I'm not sure where perennial producing plants fall, but most likely in the real property bucket. Which means you cannot remove them unless you have permission to do so (or in the case of property you own, you stipulate this in your sales contract. Kind of like excluding a fixture that is attached to the wall, like a chandelier, cabinet, etc.) Even if you planted the plant yesterday and move out today. Timing has nothing to do with it, but it is more a concept of being "fixed" to the property (whether that is a cabinet "fixed" to the wall of the home, or a plant planted in the ground, and "fixed" to the real estate.) Here is a link that gives a good explanation of this below (see the 5th paragraph down regarding planting materials). So, a plant planted in a container would be personal property (i.e., not "fixed" to the real estate or dwelling.) I would get your landlord's agreement to be able to remove the trees, vines, and plants in writing, and specify each and every plant clearly. And, that you will restore the soil or grass and again, be specific in your description as to exactly what you mean by "restore". That way, you have it in writing, and if there is a dispute down the road, you have a leg to stand on in court, if that were ever to happen. Patty S. Here is a link that might be useful: Real vs. Personal Property...See MoreGrape vine and trees, advice needed
Comments (4)I've got wild grape growing up into some of my conifers in my woods. Can't be allowed to happen as they will grow so profusely as to shade out the underlying tree. So yes, cut and apply herbicide. If you are able to acquire the herbicide Garlon, that is a little more effective for this application than is Roundup. But......Roundup-style herbicides will do the trick. Are you making a strong solution? In the case of professional strength glyphosate (Roundup active ingredient) materials that I've used, the recommendation for this application is to mix the full-strength concentrate 50/50 with water. BTW, I think this problem is on the increase. My theory is that there have been some drought years, and that nothing, not even severe drought stops these vines. Hence, the poor growing conditions of recent years have given the wild grape a bit of an advantage. Not sure, just speculating. +oM...See MoreGrape Vine from a grape vine clipping?
Comments (11)This is a fun little experiment so definitely keep us posted. I think we're all learning something here. :) Rooting under glass in this case, to me, means cutting a short section of stem, sticking it either in to a pot of good potting soil, or sticking it in to the ground, and then watering well and either covering the cutting/stem with a bell jar, glass, or plastic bag etc to make a mini-greenhouse. If you have 14 feet to work with, yes "mixing it up" would mean hacking it in to smaller pieces and trying different strategies. If it was mine, I'd cut it in to 12 inch sections (keeping track of which end was pointed to the original roots and which was pointed to the branch tip) and I'd try different strategies: rooting in water indoors, rooting in water outdoors, rooting in potting soil indoors, rooting in potting soil outdoors (covered), sticking some in soil outdoors (maybe some with, or some without, the little greenhouses), and so on, just to improve your chances for success. I bet you'll get some success from one of these methods. I wouldn't add manure etc to the soil where you're rooting them--sometings that can encourage rot or burn etc. I'm sure they'll love it once they're rooted and you're ready to plant them to their new permanent home. Keep the updates coming as I'd love to know what method succeeds for you since I've always rooted only dormant stems (and quite lazily at that with a gentle shove of the stem in to the ground or potting soil in winter). Take care and super good luck! Grant...See MoreAdvice on spraying grape vines
Comments (6)CodyM: I do not grow the grape varieties you mention but I am familiar with them. I grow Concord and Canadice in SE WI. I have grown Edelweiss, Himrod seedless and others in the past. If your vines are young and not bearing fruit, I would not spray them. Once they are bearing, then I spray mine with Captan fungicide in spring to prevent back rot. Usually I spray them when the buds are just bursting and again weekly until the fruit is formed and sizes up so noticeable. Since I spray my apples all season, I still hit the grapes as well. I got hammered last August as we had a freak 3rd generation of grape berry moth and ended up loosing 1/3 of my crop to it. Normally I do not spray my grapes after August 15th. When to stop however depends on when the variety is going to ripen. Some of my seedless grapes ripen in August so I stop spraying in late July on those varieties. Last year a friend lost a lot of his crop to downy mildew in August. I had none on mine luckily. His fruit was just covered in white mildew. I spray fungicide in spring for black rot prevention. I spray fungicide later in season for mildew control. For insects the only issue I have had is grape berry moth so I do use an insecticide during the growing season as we normally can get 2 generations of berry moth in my area. The big issue on the fungal problems is that you need to spray to prevent the disease once you have fruit. Spraying a fungicide after you have black rot or mildew on the fruit will do no good. If your area has low humidity then fungal issues may not be a big problem for you....See MoreJ H
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